All RJJ has to do to win is...

So in other words you're favoring both Tito and Roy over Nard? Interesting.:think

 

I thought we were talking about Calzaghe. ??

No, I'd favor Hopkins to beat either Jones or Trinidad.

 

Ah, my bad.

 

How do some of you envision the fight going.......?????

I cant get out of my head Jones laying on the ropes and playing rope a dope as he did absolutely nothing vs Glenn Johnson.......
.....if thats not a shot fighter, I dont know what is.

Of course, Trinidad is'nt as strong or a workmanlike as Johnson, but he can mantain a pretty good workrate without fatigueing.

The X factor for me is that Trinidad has been inactive for too long, so its hard to tell how much Trinidad has regressed.

Its hard to predict an outcome really. I believe that Jones will taste Trinidad's power early and decide to fight on his toes, backpedalling all night like he did in his third fight with Tarver.
A pathetic performance by Jones.....the question is will Trinidad be content be smart enough to know that Jones is there to survive, and just do the things necessary to win each round......which will be to use his jab, go for accuracy and not power......


Its anybodies guess really, but I got a bad feeling for Roy Jones on this one......my guess is that Jones is going to get caught clean by a Trinidad loaded punch and get KTFO or hurt very badly by a single shot!

For anybody to say this is an easy fight for Roy Jones after the mediocre performances he's had in recent years is a joke!

 

Exactly.

 

All Trinidad needs to do is win 40% of the exchanges in the middle of the ring, just hold his own and push the pace to the extent that he can. Where he'll win rounds is when Roy backs into the ropes, and there he should pound away and rack up points. He'll have plenty of chances there, because Roy can't stay off them.

Lots of question marks about both fighters. And either guy could get knocked out.

 

This is a complete wild card.

September 2002. Roy was the best boxer on the planet. Looked damn near invincible. Made the recently defeated Tito's desire to fight him look utterly laughable.

September 2004. Roy Shot ? He put on one of the worst performances of any name fighter in going down to Glenn Johnson.


The 1992 - 2002 Jones destroys ANY version of Tito. He can pick any round from 2-12 in advance, and deliver on it.

So 2008?

Roy has looked seriously faded in his slow comeback attempt. What does he have at this stage?

What does Tito have after multiple retirements. He's 2-2-0 in four fights in almost seven years.

What can we expect, from either guy.

And why will this be ppv.

Regardless of what either guy has left, Dawson, Kessler and probably others would probably stop either guy at the moment.

Just on natural size and past skills, I would pick Jones.

But I wouldn't bet much on it.

 

Thats the thing about Tito, he's totally different from a fighter like Glenn Johnson who would take advantage of inactivity by just pounding away at anything.....chest, arms, shoulders, whatever is there.....

.....Trinidad is the type of figher to wait for openings and then throw his shots as he see's the openings.

Thats whats going to make this fight interesting....what will Trinidad do when Jones rests on the ropes and just covers up?

.....interesting, because Trinidad is'nt one to overwhelm with brute strenghth.

If I'm Trinidad, I work of my jab, feint, and throw lots to the body in order that Jones opens up some or at the very least defend the body.
That should open up a few opportunities for Tito.

 

True, but he'll have the option of taking a more scientific approach with Roy on the ropes like Tarver did in their first fight. Jones always has been hittable there, but in the old days he'd fire back with so much speed, precision and power that the opponent usually chose not to engage him on the ropes. I believe it was Telesco whom Jones taunted so badly by standing against the ropes begging him to walk forward.

My primary questions with Trinidad are what kind of speed and power will he carry to this weight. Anthony Hanshaw may not be anything special, but Jones did take care of him, and he isn't awful. There's a chance Tito will be awful, which is what is driving the odds right now.

 

Having fame being more important than having game. I don't mind it being a PPV, I just won't buy it. This is one of those where anyone who purchases it has to expect that it may not be vintage material.

I agree with you that Dawson and Kessler stop either guy.

 

Re: ppv, I agree.

(It was funny the night that some dude thought you were JIM Lampley !)

 

Yeah, at first I thought he was kidding, but he kept insulting me even after I told him that I'm not Jim. You gotta love those drive-by whackjobs who hang out for a week or so after a big fight.

I'm blaming it on Floyd.

 

The question is, do you think he will do that?

Will Jones box or do what he did in his third fight with Tarver....stay on the outside and do relatively nothing?


.....and if it was that simple as staying on the outside and boxing.....why did'nt Jones do that vs Glenn Johnson?

Staying on the outside and boxing would seem to be the logical thing to do vs Johnson, but for whatever reason, he did'nt do it!
.....its what usually happens when you're shot and just a shadow of your former self.

 

I don't think Roy could fight that way now even if he wanted. I would really hate to see him get embarrassed by Calzaghe. That would be awful. Maybe one day soon he'll be honest with himself about where his career is at this point in time.

 

Sure jabbing isn't Roy's favorite thing to do, but his did it in the past and did it well.. he'll use the straight right and the left hook a lot more though.