All this Klitschko ATG stuff....

Lol...

 

Lol...

 

Well if the rest of the division are "complete no skill jokes", and these are the only guys the Klitschko brothers could possibly beat, then basically what you are saying is that the Klitschkos have never beaten any decent opposition.

That's the hilarious flaw in logic you find in most Klitschko fanatics, and by fanatic I mean the obsessive fan who likes a sportsman more than the sport itself.

Also you're doing that thing again where you talk about the brothers as if they are one single boxer. Stop that.

 

If you have to beat an ATG to be an ATG - Who was the first ever ATG and how did he become one???

 

How are you dominant when you haven't beaten your chief rival?

 

:deal

 

wow, 20 years from now, Wlad will be seen as top 5-10 ATG. Vitali? Meh, maybe top 40 or so. But Wlad? Seriously? Time travel lock!

 

I'm Canadian. British heritage. I'm a Wlad fan because I like boxing and true champions, athletes. I admit it, I guess I'm a Klittard from a First World Country. I'm also a Rudtard/Raztard and a Golotaholic. I like Pac and Broner, and Sexy is a favourite too. Is it possible to be a fan of so many different styles in your world, or is everyone a stereotype to you?

 

if Wlad keeps winning

 

Klitards can be identified by their capacity to only support white and usually eastern European fighters, their ignorance of any boxing pre-2003 and outside of the HW division, and their refusal to accept the reality of TKO6 to the point of sheer ******edness. They also have a compendium of excuses for every Klitschko loss (® Shaunster101), including poisoning, dreadlocks, thumbs, excess of vaseline, and no doubt some ridiculous **** I haven't even thought of. You seem quite reasonable to me and pretty much all of the main Klitards are known to the rest of us anyway, and usually get themselves banned for racism/stupidity eventually.

 

Nice to read an intelligent, thought out take on the brothers. So many bitter punks out there that have no respect because they hate for reasons that have next to nothing to do with boxing. I hope Wlad does reign as undisputed for a couple of years after Vit hangs up, something very few achieve.

 

Not top 10 ATG, but they are notable mentions in HW history for their longetivity on top.

 

Vitali yes for sure. Wlad probably but not very high because of his loses. Vitali hasn't seemed to ever have been beaten up except against Lewis and has beaten some really good possible HOF fighters like Sanders.

 

I think Vitali has beaten the toughest fighters. Wlad has his best wins against Haye and maybe Sam Peter?

Vitali has arguably beaten nearly everyone he ever faced. He was beating Lewis. The only fight Vitali legit lost was Chris Byrd.

Vitali could probably fight another few years and still not lose. He is an ATG and in the top 15. Wlad is in the top 40. Wlad perhaps ahead of George Foreman but he's not up there with the Ali, Frazier, Marciano, Louis, Holyfield, Tyson, Lewis, Moorer, Bowe, and that is because he hasn't fought the competition. It's not entirely his fault, and I suppose if he didn't lose 3 times by KO like that he would be much higher on my list but how do you get knocked out like he did but he's going to rank higher than the guys who knocked him out? He never beat Corrie Sanders. He did outpoint some of the others but he's also the sort of fighter who you just know if just one power puncher existed in the division at the time he would get clipped and KO'd.

In fact it's so bad that if James Toney were younger he would probably beat him even despite the side. The James Toney who beat Holyfield would have slaughtered Wlad. What about Holyfield? If Holyfield were younger he would have slaughtered Wlad and the fight would not go past 6 rounds. What about Byrd? Chris Byrd would have slaughtered Wlad worse than he slaughtered Vitali.

When Wlad did face guys who could punch he got knocked out. So lately he seems to be picking fighters who can't punch. The one exception was Haye.