All this Marg is going to walk thru Cotto stuff, but...

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  1. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Zab has a good uppercut, but I don't think it has the conviction of Margarito's. Nor does he use it as much.

    Good point about speed. Speed is a great asset to have, but fanboys here seem to think you must have it to win a fight.
     
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  2. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    AGREED--AND THAT BAZOOKA HAS NOTHING TO BACK HIS CASE..C'MON AN ACT OF GOD...I THINK IT IS POSSIBLE THAT COTTO WILL EAT AN UPPERCUT AND CONTINUE TO COME FORWARD..."AN ACT OF GOD" PLEASE....
     
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  3. jlrivera81

    jlrivera81 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    whoa, there you go. you will never find a post of mine saying margarito has no chance to win. what you will find is me saying i believe Cotto will for x,y, & z reasons. i also do consider margarito winning if he lands something really good on cotto and continues to hurt him.

    however, you are the win saying that cotto has no chance of winning. you even go as far as to say, it would take an act of god for cotto to be able to take margarito's shots.

    it's not like marg is the new tyson.
     
    jlrivera81, Jul 22, 2008
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  4. jlrivera81

    jlrivera81 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    lance, no one said anything about marg's camp. when i say "marg people", i'm talking about the fans here on ESB who have marg winning. the general thought of those predicting a victory for marg is by KO saying that Cotto cant take his pressure or punches.

    i am simply posing the question, what if Cotto can?

    is that not a reasonable question.
     
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  5. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    When you say Marg's people, why would anyone immediately think you meant posters? Can be more specific is all. Didn't mean to step on your toes.

    Either way, just because Cotto could take Margarito's punch does not mean he'll be able to do it all night. And if he could, he's still getting hit. Margarito does not need a KO to win.
     
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  6. jlrivera81

    jlrivera81 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    my bad on the miscommunication. i'll try to work on that:good .

    also, it's not that i think he needs a ko to win. it's more that the only way i see him winning is with a KO. i dont see him outfighting cotto for a full 12 rounds without KO'ing Cotto. I think that if Cotto does last 12 rounds with Marg, it will be b/c he is fighting his fight and getting the better of any exchanges.

    However, i feel if Marg is able to get off like he did against Kermit, then he could possibly KO cotto. If he doesnt KO Cotto, then I would think it's because he wasnt able to get off. If Marg gets Cotto in serious trouble, then unlike Torres, Corley, & Judah, I'd expect him to go for the kill.

    But, in the end, I just dont see that happening:bbb Cotto all the way!
     
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  7. Monticello

    Monticello Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Margarito is not going to walk through Cotto. Cotto is no Kermit Cintron. Cotto is a better boxer and better brawler then Cintron is. If Margarito just follows Cotto all night, I can really see it being a one-sided decision is Cotto's favor.
     
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  8. Ricky369

    Ricky369 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    All fighters tend to reduced their output against Cotto. Why? Effective counterpunching to the body and arms. Cotto definetly has been in the ring against better oppositon than Margarito ever has. Kermit Cintron kicks like a mule. But his boxing skils are VERY,VERY,VERY LIMITED. Margarito has been cut before and Cotto loves to rearrange people's faces. Call it a bad night if you want. But Paul Williams already show you what good boxing can do to Margarito. There is always a good chance of Margarito connecting a good punch and KO Cotto. Margarito is an EXCELLENT finisher. But I can't go with GOOD LUCK here. I have to go with boxing skills. I say Cotto will win this one. I think by desicion. But I wont be surprise is this fight doesn't make it to the twelve. The KO can go to any side.
     
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  9. Ricky369

    Ricky369 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Calling Shane old is ridiculous. I think Shane can beat Cintron AND Margarito any day. I think we already have a few good demostrations by "OLD" guy this year
     
    Ricky369, Jul 22, 2008
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  10. wushu

    wushu Well-Known Member Full Member

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    As I have stated before Cotto is on another level. Cotto's comes into fights with plan a,b, and c and adapts well to any style in front of him. Margo is a one dimensional fighter. Margo only knows how to fight coming forward. Cotto will circle counterpunch and plan outclass Margarito. Cotto can take Margos punchs. Plus Margos punchs are so loopey and slow i cant Cotto getting tagged alot.
     
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  11. wushu

    wushu Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Thats bull****. Shane looked damn good against Cotto. He did not look old at all. Shane was still fighting when the bell rang. Terrible analysis from an amatuer.
     
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  12. jlrivera81

    jlrivera81 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    perhaps shane is stronger and hits harder than marg.

    i'm just saying "what if"
     
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  13. jlrivera81

    jlrivera81 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    he couldnt see judah's lightning fast uppercuts, but i'm sure he'll see marg's slow ass uppercuts.
     
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  14. wushu

    wushu Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Margaritos upper is so slow. Cotto's is gonna outclass him is the fight.
     
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  15. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Cotto can take Marg's shots, Marg is an accumulation hitter, NOT A ONE PUNCH hitter, big difference... and he's only going to land the odd flush shot here and there, not consistently, this will not be a war, it will be a one sided, surgical destruction of a 1 dimensional fighter against a real elite fighter.

    Marg is so loopy and sloppy, he won't land much at all. One top of this, everytime Marg's been counter punched repeatedly, his workrate has dropped significantly, well, here's the best counter puncher he would have faced.

    Marg could not beat Williams, and barely beat Clottey, this is madness that people think he's got a chance in hell vs. Cotto considering the amount of punishment he's about to take.

    Lets also go back to Williams and Clottey, both guys beat him up and stunned him.... now let's think about Cotto's precision shots behind the sledgehammer jab.:yep
     
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