All-Time 200 lbs limit head to head

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  1. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Head to head how do the fallowing do against each other. 200 lbs weight limit.
    1. Joe Louis
    2. Rocky Marciano
    3. Evander Holyfield
    4. Floyd Patterson
    5. Jack Johnson
    6. Jack Dempsey
    7. James Toney
    8. Roy Jones Jr

    All of these boxers had at least one key fight (acording to boxrec) weighing 200 lbs or less. In head to head match ups who would come out on top?
    The order I have them in dose not reflect any ranking.
     
  2. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yea Charles belongs in, but so dose Jones and Toney.
     
  3. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Toney should be replaced by Charles
     
  4. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's not an elemition tourment add and subtract who ever you like.
     
  5. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If you don't like who I selected add and/or subtract whoever you like.
     
  6. Ted Stickles

    Ted Stickles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Joe Louis
    Rocky Marciano
    Dempsey
    Holyfield
    Tunney
    Just to name a few
     
  7. carll68

    carll68 Member Full Member

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    Place them in a bracket, and lets see what opinions we all have

    Marciano Vs Tunney

    Louis Vs Johnson

    Holyfield Vs Jones

    Dempsey Vs Toney

    who comes out of this bracket and why?
     
  8. ironchamp

    ironchamp Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Marciano wears down Tunney in a fight where Gene's superior fundamentals are slowly eclipsed by The Rock's relentless aggression. I can picture a fight where Gene dictates the pace but is unable to keep marciano off him.

    Marciano KO14


    Louis's precision punching and refined style is able to sporadically land on Johnson. Jack keeps up a good pace but is constantly on the defensive after being hurt early in the fight. By the 12th round Joe is able to land combinations at will and Johnson is ultimately stopped.

    Holyfield starts out fast and though not really landing clean is winning the fight based on effective agression. He corners Jones several times but is unable to do real damage until he gets stunned by a Jones combination in the 7th round. By the 10th round the scoring is a matter of preference. Jones is clearly landing the cleaner punches but Evander is pressing the action and being is busier fighter. He continues to press Roy and is able to land some clean shots but fails to follow up and lets Jones off the hook. By the 12th round Holyfield seems to be taking longer rest periods and is fighting in spurts. Jones takes advantage of this and summons a rally but never fully commits to his punches and drops a decision.

    Holyfield MD12

    Dempsey although unable to walk through Toney presses the action pretty hard. By the 6th round Toney's bravado seems to go out the window and he's unable frustrate Dempsey any longer.

    Dempsey TKO7
     
  9. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    Marciano Vs Tunney marciano by ko in 9

    Louis Vs Johnson louis by SD in 12

    Holyfield Vs Jones Holyfield by ko in 11

    Dempsey Vs Toney dempsey by ud over 12:good
     
  10. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    moore yes schemeling no he beat a green louis and then got :good ko'd
     
  11. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    no i t just prove i dnt think much of schemling and he's an overrated euro fighter he couldn't beat any of though mentioned in the option except maybe louis but then he would make the adjustments and beat him every time after that.:good :good :D :D :D

    ps dont hype up your euro greats
     
  12. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Dose anyone think any acatual cruserweights besides Holyfield should be included?
     
  13. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Mmmm...cruiserweights beside Holy? I dunno, maybe Qawi, but that's about it.
     
  14. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    No sir, not in that kind of company.
     
  15. Stewbear

    Stewbear Active Member Full Member

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    Why is Jones there?