All-Time 200 lbs limit head to head

Michael Spinks deserves a run.

 

Ok..we seem to have a concensus

Bracket 2 is Marciano , Loius , Holy , Dempsey

this is my choice as well

Lets put them together for the final, then the championship

Holy Vs. Dempsey
Loius vs Marciano (dont hand me the "they already fought" stuff)

This is tough.

Who and why?

 

:good Schmeling was a good if not great fighter.
Louis was better, no doubt, but no one can take that first fight away from him..



About the topic, i think Louis comes out on top although he was a bit over 200 pounds when he as more experienced. I think Marciano would end up second and Dempsey third. But i think Charles should definitly by in there, as well as Walcott. Switch them with Jones and Toney for instance. I also think Johnson would lose to most of them in terms of head to head, because he boxed in a transition from bareknuckle to gloved boxing style, i think he'd be picked apart from the outside.

 

frazier :think why has nobody said it made 200 easy only beacue he was at heavy did he actually not care to be up or not

sam langford was 180 odd. dare we looking for guys who can weigh that wieght or guys who are at cruiser?

 

jerry quarry anyone...very good fighter gave alot of guys problems just was too proud to try out box ali and try and out brawl frazier

agaisnt big guys he was electric and i think louis would have trouble agianst him.

 

harry wills made 200 and would of fought at that wieght for ages if so....sO harry wills (please dont hit me)

 

Says who?
What has he done above 175? (please not ruiz)
Hell who has he beat at 175?

 

im not saying jimmy ellis was an atg but he was a damn good fighter very small for the wieght and not like frazier or quarry he actually forced himself to make the wieght. he fought hard hard hard competition especially for such a small framed man.
he could be devasting one punch hitter and could box better than most.
but i felt sad when he came out to fight ali and ali who is wieghing in around 220 is 6'3. ellis wanting to get the best shape possible worked his arse off and became a trim lean boxing machine at a spicy 190 pounds. now he might not be the best but he was so drasticly underwieght in the hardest division in years

as simple as looking on boxrec he was wieghing in at junior middlewieght for his first pro fight

 

Interesting side note.

I personaly believe that three of the four most effective heavyweight punchers of all time were under 200lbs.

1. Joe Louis
2. Jack Dempsey
3. Mike Tyson
4. Sam Langford

 

I would say MArciano beats Louis, and dempsey beats Holyfield. The ROck comes out on top.

 

Charles and Langford should be there instead of Jones and Toney, also Tunney and Jersey Joe Walcott should be listed.

 

1962 Muhammed Ali