All Time: Division - Closest to Unbeatable

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  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    HW - Ali
    LHW - Charles
    MW - Robinson
    WW - Robinson
    LW - Duran
    FW - Saddler
    BW - Zarate
    FW - Wolgast
     
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  2. rayrobinson

    rayrobinson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I still take Pep over Saddler , I know he lost 3 times ( I have it twice as the third was a shoulder injury).

    Also I have Hagler at Middle.

    Fly - I thought Wolgast was a lightweight? Maybe I am wrong but his biggest win was probably against Nelson .
     
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  3. Beatle

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    Does the guy in my avatar look familiar?
     
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  4. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Midget Wolgast.
     
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  5. Barrera

    Barrera Defeated Boxing_master Full Member

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    id love to put pernell in there but he is in such a cluster**** bracket packed to the brim with ATG's :(
     
    Barrera, Aug 29, 2012
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  6. rayrobinson

    rayrobinson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Id drop him in at 140 , its probably a weight he never even fought at I know , but its a weight he would be very comfortable at .
     
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  7. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Nothing at all wrong with Whitaker in at lighweight IMO. I think he's a fine choice and he'd be my second choice by a sliver, no less.
     
    McGrain, Aug 29, 2012
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  8. nostir a

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    HW- ali, holmes (if you put lewis in i would put bowe in, similar outside game, much superior inside game, h2h of course.
    CW- holyfield
    LH -charles
    SMW - jones (ward could have a shout in future
    MW - Hagler (monzon close)
    LMW- hearns
    WW- robinson (leonard close and hearns has potential to beat them, but fragigle chin get stopped possibly
    LWW- ? (not sure on this one)
    LW - duran (my option but could be swapped with b leonard/pernell w
    SFW - mayweather ?
    FW- saddler
    LF- ?
    FW- jimmy wilde
     
    nostir a, Aug 29, 2012
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  9. JASPER

    JASPER Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Excellent excellent list! but I would Pick the Hitman over the bodysnatcher at 154 and Moore and Charles might have a slight edge over Foster
     
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  10. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    HW- Rocky Marciano
    CW - Evander Holyfield
    LHW- Michael Spinks
    SMW- Roy Jones
    MW- Carlos Monzon
    JMW - Thomas Hearns
    WW - Sugar Ray Robinson
    JWW - Aaron Pryor
    LW - Pernell Whitaker
    JLW - Julio Cesar Chavez
    FW - Salvador Sanchez
    JFW - Wilfredo Gomez
    BW - Terry McGovern
    JBW - Khaosay Galaxy
    Fly - Jimmy Wilde
    JFly - Jung Koo Chang
    Straw - Ricardo Lopez
     
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  11. JASPER

    JASPER Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Interesting list:think
     
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  12. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    The title was closest to unbeatable so i tried to choose fighters that never lost at a respective weight class even if some of them are not considered the best at that weight class.
     
    bladerunner, Aug 29, 2012
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  13. kragz

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    HW - Vitali

    Why? He hasn't ever been behind on the score cards or has he been dropped. He has never looked close to being beatable. He saved his career with RTD9 Bird while on his way to an easy victory and scared Lewis into retirement after beating him on the scorecards
     
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  14. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    I`ll stick to fighters I`ve seen a lot of footage of at the weights.... the most `unbeatable` were.....

    Heavyweight - Muhammad Ali (1964-67)

    Cruiserweight - Evander Holyfield

    Light-Heavyweight - Nobody (Jones was the best of my time tho)

    Super-Middleweight - Roy Jones Jr

    Middleweight - Marvellous Marvin Hagler

    Light-Middleweight - Thomas Hearns

    Welterweight - Sugar Ray Leonard

    Light-Welterweight - Julio Cesar Chavez/Pernell Whitaker

    Lightweight - Roberto Duran

    Super-Featherweight - Nobody (Chavez, Arguello & floyd could potentially all swap fights with each other)

    Featherweight - Salvador Sanchez

    Super-Bantamweight - Erik Morales


    My knowledge under SBW is not the strongest so I`ll leave it there.
     
    Bill Butcher, Aug 29, 2012
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  15. Chempasillo

    Chempasillo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I like your list, well done for picking a #1 for each division, I will take time and try to make the same, boy am I lazy :twisted:

    I can understand picking vitaly. the only problem I have is that even so vitaly was as big and even taller as lewis, lennox had one big advantage over vitaly and most of the heavyweights out there. he had the rare combination of good footword combined with a big strong powerful body.
    a rewatched the golota fight and it was just incredible how this tall big man, weighing like 244 pounds was moving so dynamic. footwork was fast, his combination punching was fast and when he was moving into golota it was just like a ****ing storm destroying a house. old lewis bloddied a arguably reaching his prime vitaly, so what would the golota version had done to him?

    for me lennox lewis is the best heavyweight ever. in terms of p4p it is muhammad ali.

    p4p ali yup. but damn, at his best he weighed like 225 pounds and lewis or klitschkos weight in there prime around 240-250, its obvious that would have beaten ali. its like saying martinez beats a juan manuel marquez, because he is 3 divisions above him, but p4p same size, same weight a 5'11 jmm would probably destroy martinez.
     
    Chempasillo, Aug 29, 2012
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