All Time Flyweight Tournament Round 2: Venice Borkhorsor vs Mark Johnson

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  1. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Can Too Sharp tame the strength, power, and stamina of Borkhorsor?
     
  2. Raging B(_)LL

    Raging B(_)LL KAPOW!!! Full Member

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    Too Sharp should win this, he was by far the better boxer and with his other attributes (speed/power/mobility/etc..) I see Venice having a rather difficult time connecting with anything of real significance. Mark did have a very bad habit of admiring his work a bit too much at times and could also get a bit lazy if things were going his way which would see him get caught with unecessary punches against far lesser opponents, and if he were to do that against a fella like Borkorsor he could be in some serious trouble. I do however think that he will be respectful and wary of the Thailander`s power/aggession/strenght and will fight accordingly and stick to a disciplined fightplan and win on points while probably having to survive a scare or two along the way.

    Jonhson UD15 Borkorsor
     
  3. Sweet Pea

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    I wish I'd seen more of Borkhorsor. He has me very intrigued at the moment. I think Johnson tended to stand flat footed and in range a bit too often for my liking, at least in hypothetical matchups with power puncher and pressure fighters. He had excellent offensive tools, but he was a lot more hittable than he should've been.
     
  4. Mr Butt

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    johnson takes an early lead turns off a little gets drawn into a fight in the middle rounds but gets back to his game plan of boxing to sneak a disputed decision win
     
  5. teeto

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    I take Johnson, boxing even in range i think he lands quality shots enough to shade it, although admittedly i haven't seen much of his opponent, from what i know his attack would make the fight ultra close.
     
  6. la-califa

    la-califa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I like Johnson, with his fast hands & great jab. to score points when he needs it & get a close decision win. Mark also had pretty good stamina & shouldn't wilt over the long haul.
     
  7. Flea Man

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    Sorry to bump but as Borkorsor easily outboxed Salavarria I'd say he does it here.
     
  8. Lester1583

    Lester1583 Can you hear this? Full Member

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    Harry Greb logic;)

    Bus Station looks great on paper.

    And he looked good against Herrera but not THAT good.

    Yes, he probably was better at flyweight.

    Personally I don't like to draw conclusions based on fight reports only.

    In other words, I want Borkhorsor full career set on dvd!:|
     
  9. Flea Man

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    So do I!

    I'd say he looked good enough against Herrera to say he'd beat Johnson. Totally different fighters of course but Venice was not a marauding pressure fighter, he showed he could counter brilliantly against the great Mexican as well.

    Johnson has a significant speed advantage here that goes without saying. Bus Station would just muller him anyway. He would be a TANK at fly as well, even taking into account Johnson having the benefit of same day weigh in's and holding his own at bantam.

    Borkorsor beats Rafarl Marquez for me as well.
     
  10. Lester1583

    Lester1583 Can you hear this? Full Member

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    :yep
     
  11. Flea Man

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