All-time heavyweight tournament Round of 16: Wlad vs. Jack Johnson

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  1. demigawd

    demigawd Boxing Addict Full Member

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    We now continue with the second half of the bracket of the round of 16. Here are the results of the first half:

    (1)Lewis def. (16)Dempsey 83%/17%
    (2)Vitali def. (15)Liston 70%/30%
    (3)Ali def. (14)Jeffries 92%/8%
    (4)Holmes def. (13)Marciano 70%/30%

    Here are the rules:

    • Best of three fights.
    • 12 rounds
    • 20 x 20 ring
    • 10 ounce gloves
    • Boxers and their camp are given extensive footage of their opponent and have a week to prepare a game plan
    • Boxers are in peak physical and mental condition in their absolute prime
    • After each fight, the fighters are magically restored to their pre-fight condition, but retain full knowledge of what they learned from their opponent and have another week to prepare a revised game plan

    Round 1:

    (5)Wladimir Klitschko vs. (12)Jack Johnson

    Please also vote for the other tournament matches this round:

    (5)Wlad vs. (12)Johnson: http://www.boxingforum24.com/showthread.php?p=16088765

    (6)Tyson vs. (11)Frazier: http://www.boxingforum24.com/showthread.php?t=502249

    (7)Louis vs. (10)Bowe: http://www.boxingforum24.com/showthread.php?t=502250

    (8 )Holyfield vs. (9)Foreman: http://www.boxingforum24.com/showthread.php?t=502251
     
  2. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    Think this is a shitty style matchup for Jack
     
  3. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Yup. "Seedings" screwed over Jeffries and Johnson.
     
  4. jas

    jas ★ Legends: B-HOP ; PAC ★ Full Member

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    what would happen on the inside? lol. wrestling match .
     
  5. demigawd

    demigawd Boxing Addict Full Member

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    lol, don't worry, after the tournament is over I have a "losers' bracket" tournament planned to give the old-timers a chance to shine.
     
  6. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Probably the worst styles matchup that could be made for Johnson. Gotta roll with Wlad in this one.
     
  7. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    The clinch is Wlads only way to protect his potato chip chin.

    Here he is faced against a guy who can clinch better than him and could also fight out of the clinch.

    Johnson out works him, backs him up and turns him over.

    Waste of time putting Wlad in fantasy fights anyway because in a fair fight without his ref he'd be dq'd everytime.
     
  8. jas

    jas ★ Legends: B-HOP ; PAC ★ Full Member

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    This is what I initially thinking. Johnson had a dirty inside game but wlad has height and leverage .
     
  9. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    A conservative outboxer with power, range, and patience is kryptonite for Johnson. Jack thrived on his opponents' mistakes and being able to utilize physical advantages; against Wlad, he's out of luck on both counts. Many fans don't like Wlad's safety-first approach; Jack would like it even less because Wlad's more technically sound than anyone he ever faced.

    Johnson was one of the most patient heavyweight champions ever when it came to dictating pace, but that patience is a double-edged sword when he can't win the range game. I don't see him being nearly as effective coming forward, and against Wlad, I think that's the fight he'd be forced to fight if he's trying to put himself in to position to score.
     
  10. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    impossible to be logical in these fantasy fights....there is very little film of johnson and what there is, is almost comical trying to sit through it and watch it.
     
  11. BoxingX

    BoxingX Active Member Full Member

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    Johnson TKO's Wlad.

    So much Klitschko overrated on this site, totally nuts, it's like they haven't seen good HW boxing ever.
     
  12. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Vlad by knockout, total mismatch. Johnson was good in his day though.........
     
  13. FartWristedBum

    FartWristedBum I walk this Earth like a bum Full Member

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    Very interesting match up for me, no mismatch here. Two good chess players, an inside Vs an outside specialist.
    I think a peak Johnson out-thinks Wlad here and grits his way to a dirty, grapply 2-1 victory over the three bouts.
     
  14. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    You're assesment of Wlad is made up. The Wlad you descride here does not exist. He doesn't control range half as good as you make out.

    Everybody Wlad fights gets in on him. Even old retired Mormeck who was only there for a pay day.

    Johnson counters his outstretched jab before tearing a new one on the inside.
     
  15. Redman

    Redman Active Member Full Member

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    Shitty match up for the people watching it, both liked to spoil on the inside.