All-Time P-4-P Top Ten

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  1. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Yea, i have been umming and arring over putting him at number 1 at heavy over Louis for a long time now, i think i just need to be a man and get it done- here goes-

    1. Ali
    2. Louis

    There's no going back now, thanks for the final push i needed there pal!!
     
    teeto, Jul 20, 2008
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  2. Loewe

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    Harry Greb
    Henry Armstrong
    Sugar Ray Robinson
    Sam Langford
    Roberto Duran
    Ezzard Charles
    Eder Jofre
    Mickey Walker
    Archie Moore
    Pernell Whitaker
     
    Loewe, Jul 20, 2008
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  3. Quickhands21

    Quickhands21 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    1-Sam Langford. period imo
    2-Henry Armstrong
    3-Robinson
    4-Harry Grebb
    5-pernell whitaker
    6-Duran
    7-willie pep
    8-Ali
    9-Benny Leonard
    10-Marciano,sorry just look at the tools he had to wok with,talk about making use of what you have.
     
    Quickhands21, Jul 20, 2008
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  4. COULDHAVEBEEN

    COULDHAVEBEEN Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There's no correct answer here, and besides it's just too bloody hard!

    Ali, Leonard, Robinson, Marciano & Armstrong are all pretty much pick themselves, in my humble opinion. There are about 30 (maybe more) correct answers for the next five. Perhaps my next three would be Louis, Duran and Jones Jnr.
     
    COULDHAVEBEEN, Jul 20, 2008
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  5. JohnThomas1

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    So where would you have Tyson?

    Also, what about Pep, Gans and Benny?
     
    JohnThomas1, Jul 21, 2008
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  6. Maxmomer

    Maxmomer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Or Hagler and Monzon.
     
    Maxmomer, Jul 21, 2008
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  7. JohnThomas1

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    Them too. I used very common and oft selected top 10's to see if they make his 10 cut.
     
    JohnThomas1, Jul 21, 2008
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  8. teeto

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    Thanks JT.
     
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  9. dr greenthumb

    dr greenthumb New Member Full Member

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    1 Robinson
    2 Armstrong
    3 Greb
    4 Duran
    5 Pep
    6 Langford
    7 Charles
    8 Jofre
    9 Whitaker
    10 Walker




    DR Greenthumb
     
    dr greenthumb, Jul 21, 2008
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  10. TIGEREDGE

    TIGEREDGE Boxing Addict Full Member

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    SRR
    Henry Armstrong
    Roberto Duran
    Ezzard Charles
    Willie Pep
    Julio Cesar Chavez
    Benny Leonard
    Sam Langford
    Muhammad Ali
    Archie Moore
     
    TIGEREDGE, Jul 21, 2008
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  11. TIGEREDGE

    TIGEREDGE Boxing Addict Full Member

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    really strong contendors for the top 10 are:

    hagler, hearns, whitaker, arguello, olivares, jones jnr, holmes, joe louis, wilfredo gomez, jofre, grebb, walker
     
    TIGEREDGE, Jul 21, 2008
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  12. McGrain

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    Top Tier

    Sam Langford
    Sugar Ray Robinson
    Harry Greb
    Henry Armstrong

    In my opinion these guys should form any top 4 in any given order. I do not think a placing lower than 6 can justified for any of these men


    2nd Tier

    Ezzard Charles
    Willie Pep
    Mickey Waler
    Archie Moore

    You can justify these guys being in the mix with the top tier. I don't like to see any of these guys rated outside of a 12.

    3rd Tier

    Bob Fitzsimmons
    Muhammad Ali
    Benny Leonard
    Barney Ross
    Sugar Ray Leonard

    Men who can justafiably appear in any 10 but shuldn't be above any of the first tier. I don't like to see any of these guys outside of a 15.


    Others

    Charley Burley
    Joe Louis
    Joe Gans
    Pernell Whitaker
    Jimmy Wilde
    Barbados Joe Walcott
    Gene Tunney
    Roy Jones
    Jimmy Wilde
    Tony Canzoneri
    Sandy Saddler
    Carlos Monzon

    Men who should be firmly attatched to a top 25 who may appear at the fringes of the 10 based upon criteria or, possibly, a deeper understanding of a given fighter.
     
    McGrain, Jul 21, 2008
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  13. Holmes' Jab

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    Something like ...


    1. Henry Armstrong
    2. Sugar Ray Robinson
    3. Harry Greb
    4. Ezzard Charles
    5. Sam Langford
    6. Mickey Walker
    7. Barney Ross
    8. Joe Louis
    9. Sugar Ray Leonard
    10. Muhammad Ali
    11. Pernell Whitaker
    12. Benny Leonard
    13. Roberto Duran
    14. Willie Pep
    15. Bob Fitzsimmons
    16. Barbados Joe Walcott
    17. Archie Moore
    18. Gene Tunney
    19. Joe Gans
    20. Roy Jones Jr

    On the fringes: Gavilan, Arguello, Griffith, Hagler and Burley.
     
    Holmes' Jab, Jul 21, 2008
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  14. Holmes' Jab

    Holmes' Jab Master Jabber Full Member

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    Generally nice criteria, McGrain. Charles belong in the 1st Tier 1, though IMO. Ross and SRL in the 2nd.
     
    Holmes' Jab, Jul 21, 2008
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  15. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Charles has an argument for being in the first tier I think.

    At #5 ;)
     
    McGrain, Jul 21, 2008
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