All time punchers...

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  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Don't forget Armstrong's stoppage of a Zivic! That's not a joke...but i'd rate Saddler slightly above him, personally.
     
  2. Sweet Pea

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    In terms of pure power I'd say either Hamed or Lopez at Featherweight personally.
     
  3. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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  4. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    I was right with my opening sentence on the pargraph above.

    The Cobra - Armstrong or Arguello.

    McGrain - Saddler, or do you mean having him above Armstrong and not necesarily #1?

    Sweet Pea - Lopez or Hamed.
     
  5. the cobra

    the cobra Awesomeizationism! Full Member

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    Who do you have at #1?
     
  6. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Saddler. His knockout percentage was over 60% and thats not bad going considering he had 162 fights. Zuelta was to Saddler what Soto and McCullough were to Hamed. Pep was rather durable, but Zuelta was as tough as a concrete wall. He wasn't stopped in 124 fights and Saddler couldn't stop him over two fights.

    However, knockout percentages on paper can be misleading to a certain degree. High percentages can also mean that a fighter is great with accumulation rather than 'outright' raw power being the reason for so many stoppages.

    Duran at lightweight is a classic example. A superb puncher. But he never made opponents fall like Hamed or Hearns. Duran was the type who would pound opponents and take them out down the stretch brutally. If you look at his defenses at lightweight, it supports my claim. Outwith the tomato cans he was was fed in non-title bouts, his stoppages were mostly down the stretch. A serious puncher takes opponents out early when physically and mentally they are tuned.

    Tyson, Hearns, Louis, Hamed, Jackson, Shavers, etc. All level 1 punchers. Duran level 2.
     
  7. Mantequilla

    Mantequilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Most of Duran's stoppages did come as a result of one or two punches turning things very quickly, without being one-punch knockouts per se.In that area of being more than a wear 'em down puncher, but not quite consistent one-shot either.

    he's a bit like Ruben Olivares in that respect, or zarate.
     
  8. Brian123

    Brian123 ESB WORLD CHAMPION Full Member

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    Lightheavy-Fitzsimmons, Moore

    Lightweight-Duran,Arguello

    Featherweight-Saddler, Hamed

    Welterweight-Trinidad,Robinson
     
  9. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'd throw in Corrales at 135, no joke 1 punch head snapping power
     
  10. Brian123

    Brian123 ESB WORLD CHAMPION Full Member

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    Arguello, forsure, was the harder hitter between he and Armstrong.
     
  11. kinski

    kinski Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Max Baer, Nigel Benn, Bob Fitzsimmons.
     
  12. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    from heaviest to lightest gotta say
    Louis/Foreman, Foster, Robinson, Arguello, Lil Red Lopez/Hamed
    no snap, crackle, and pop here. just pop. my apologies to the many ko kings i didn't mention, but these come to mind
     
  13. Quickhands21

    Quickhands21 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Very nice description Robbi
     
  14. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    A few notables, pure power wise

    Shavers

    Foster/Spinks

    Hearns/Jackson

    SRR/Cuevas

    Rosario

    Arguello

    Hamed/Saddler/Lopez

    Gomez/Garza

    Zarate/Olivares

    Wilde
     
  15. ljj

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    Forman, Cooney, & Tyson Lyle