If he beats, Whyte, Ruiz, Usyk and maybe Aj because if AJ loses again he’s all but done. He would be the best of his era and top 10-15 atg
Imagine if Fury went on a reign beating legends like Mormeck, Leapai, Brock, Molina, Breazeale, Takam, Martin, Pulev and co.? He would surely be considered one of the greatest of all time, according to this forum's criteria for greatness.
H2H I don't know. Resume wise you can't rate him top 10 no way. I'd even say top 15 is a push. He beat 2 guys that you could say are top 5 fighters. Maybe you can give Chisora a fringe top 10 rating. That's it. Wlad was an ATG win and the jury is still out on Wilder. if Wilder retires right now he's basically a guy who beat a ton of C level fighters and Ortiz. Which makes Furys wins over him, not that great.
I find him so hard to rank because there's a huge (possibly one of the biggest ever) disparities between his level, and his resume. And while I likely have him top 3 in head to head fights... At the end of the day resume is what matters and he's got a horrible one when talking ATG discussions, imo.
If Joshua loses the rematch to Usyk then he’s irrelevant on Fury’s record. However Fury does need the win over Usyk if he is still the unified champion to be considered up there with the ATGs .
He'll be no more irrelevant to Fury's record than Wlad was to Joshua's. A long reigning champion on your resume is a long reigning champion on your resume.
What I do know is that Joshua has yet to beat a long reigning Champion, Wlad did not even have a belt when he fought Joshua and was also coming off a loss. smh
You have spectacularly missed the point. The point is that Wlad didn't have the belt, because he was already beaten by Fury, but it is still great win for him.