All time top 10 LHW rankings

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  1. Jackstraw

    Jackstraw Active Member Full Member

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    For years, right up until now, I would’ve bet good money that Jersey Joe Walcott was an ATG light heavyweight; so reading these lists I’m thinking, wth-why isn’t anyone listing Jersey Joe?! I’d better set these rookies straight! So I go and check his record and sure as ****, he wasn’t a light heavyweight. Anybody else ever have something stuck in your head that you know is right but turns out to be wrong?
     
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  2. Jel

    Jel Reserving the right to be inconsistent Full Member

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    Sounds like a good idea for a new thread - misconceptions or myths!
     
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  3. Ra's Al-Ghul

    Ra's Al-Ghul The one and only! Full Member

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    Hopkins was in 2002 more than 3 years going on a middleweight and he demanded more than 50% of the purse; while Jones was the far greater star (and is it actual all time still). At his own website prizeboxing.com had Hopkins himself ranked as pound for pound best boxer in 2004 and Jones behind him (at that time when who defeated Ruiz to become the first former Middleweight world champion since Fitzsimmons who captured a world title in the Heavyweight). Either Topkins has megalomania or just wanted to prevent another defeat against his nemesis.
    Whatsoever he priced himself out (like Wright did).
     
  4. Jel

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    I'm not blaming Jones solely for that fight not coming off and they were probably the two biggest egos in world boxing at that time. But Jones never struck me as trying too hard to make that fight either. And at the end of a career when taking stock of a fighter's legacy, it counts.
     
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  5. Ra's Al-Ghul

    Ra's Al-Ghul The one and only! Full Member

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    But it was for him rather a low reward fight, as Hopkins had a lot more to win. While he had already outclassed him when who was about 29. Most sense would it had made after Hopkins vs. de la Hoya.

    If Jones had gotten offered about 60%, then it would have been fair and it would be still Bobkins biggest pay-day. But who was unproven in Light-Heavyweight, so I don't see a lot of change in Jones achievement, if he had defeated as undisputed Light-Heavyweight world champion a second time middleweight Hopkins in his late thirties. There was the first time actual more meaningful in my opinion. When he was over the hill, strugled who still while being one of the top light-heavyweights/ accustomated in the division.
     
  6. George Crowcroft

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    :eek:
     
  7. Jel

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    I know.

    My current top 10 looks pretty different to that one I posted in this thread. And yes, Charles is now no. 1 in it.
     
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  8. George Crowcroft

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    Glad to hear it. :cool:
     
  9. Jel

    Jel Reserving the right to be inconsistent Full Member

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    This was 10 of the to 15 I did for Rummy's divisions thread.

    1. Ezzard Charles
    2. Archie Moore
    3. Gene Tunney
    4. Tommy Loughran
    5. Michael Spinks
    6. Bob Foster
    7. Maxie Rosenbloom
    8. Jimmy Bivins
    9. Harry Greb
    10. Harold Johnson

    It'll change again no doubt.
     
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  10. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft 'Snarky Little Gobshite' - IntentionalButt Full Member

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    I think this was mine. It's the one I have under my (unfinished) top 50 LHW file.

    #10. Harold Johnson
    #9. Bob Foster
    #8. Jimmy Bivins
    #7. John Henry Lewis
    #6. Tommy Loughran
    #5. Gene Tunney
    #4. Michael Spinks
    #3. Harry Greb
    #2. Archie Moore
    #1. Ezzard Charles

    LHW is extremely deep, man. There's just not enough room in a top ten for everyone who belongs in one. H2H match ups interest me more, though.
     
  11. Arminius1

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    I would keep Tunney, Charles and Fitzsimmons out because they had won heavyweight championships.
     
  12. George Crowcroft

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    Would you also omit Spinks, Jones, Moorer &c? Tons of LHW fighters won the HW title.
     
  13. Arminius1

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    Yes I would. Although none of them would be considered great heavyweight champions.

    Tunney, Charles and Fitzsimmons are all considered great heavyweights.
     
  14. lufcrazy

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    I hope the number 1 position has changed now.
     
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  15. Jel

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