All Time Weight Classes Boxing Tornyment: March Madness Style

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by walk with me, Nov 2, 2008.


  1. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    can i even youtube a full fights of

    ezzard charles-archie moore- eder jofre- carlos ortiz- ike williams?

    you might be able to get 1 or 2 classic fights but im going to want to watch atleast like 5-7 fights and compare styles of the person who these fighters get matched up with

    like id have a hard time believing anyone on this forum trying to sit on this computer and say they have actually seen more than 7 of any of those fighters they just listed..

    unless they were like 60 years old

    im sorry im not trying to hear all this ying yang about these fighters from the 20's..

    they didnt even have the benefits of being able to watch footage of who their going up against...

    cmon man .. the old guys days are done... just let go.. they had their glory..

    lets focus on the current...

    nobody who posted was alive when

    ray robinson - ezzard charles - archie moore- eder jofre - carlos ortiz - or ike williams was boxing...

    why show them so much attention i dont understand it?

    i accept their boxing greats and they had great impacts in the boxing world... but as far as boxing goes today i really dont care about them...

    dudes last fights was in like 1940 and ****..
     
  2. pasky2000

    pasky2000 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ok so let's pick a weight class and then we'll register in this thing the 10 fighters that get most consideration over the upcoming week !

    How about 147 ? Plenty of good boxers that could qualify !!
     
  3. pasky2000

    pasky2000 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Here are some of the guys I want to see in this at 147, and let's consider them in their prime or close :

    - Tommy Hearns
    - Sugar Ray Leonard
    - Roberto Duran
    - Tito Trinidad
    - Oscar De La Hoya
    - Sugar Shane Mosley
    - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
    - Miguel Cotto
    - Antonio Margarito
    - Donald Curry
     
  4. the cobra

    the cobra Awesomeizationism! Full Member

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    All of them fought well past 1940, and yes there is enough footage of Robinson, Charles, Moore, Ortiz, and Williams, to compare them with more recent fighters even though all of it is probably not on Youtube. There is very little film of Jofre, but if you watch what exists there shouldn't be any doubt about how he would handle current Bantamweights.

    If you want to do a tournament of fighters since 1970 or so, then do it, but many, many fighters before that time period could easily compete and defeat anyone in their weightclass today.
     
  5. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    You're saying that athletes today are more athletic in general. That doesn't make them better fighters. You are incredibly simple.
     
  6. margo82

    margo82 Active Member Full Member

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    In a sport that is a lot about speed, reflexes, power, strength, health etc, then the modern day athlete holds huge advantages over past boxers.

    Anyway, sweet pea needs to get laid, he's a young guy who spends most of his time wanking over old boxers, get a life.
     
  7. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    You know nothing about my life aside from what I write on ESB. Get a clue. Who's alias are you anyway?
     
  8. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    So how did classic fighters like Marciano, who is supposedly at a disadvantage health wise and in terms of stamina, go 15 rounds at a constant pace while a modern great like Oscar can't even go 9 without gassing?

    I can name examples to thwart all of your ridiculous comparisons. Not that your pea brain would be able to comprehend any of it. You're obviously very simple minded.
     
  9. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    I say we stop wasting time & just go with these fighters, there is some potentially good matches in amongst this lot.

    Lets go
     
  10. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Right, Pea, belt up, we are going nowhere fast with all the silly bitching, lets just make some matches in this 147 tourney so that SRL can start cleaning up with the rest of this lot.
     
  11. the cobra

    the cobra Awesomeizationism! Full Member

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    Pernell Whitaker, Wilfred Benitez, Marlon Starling, Vernon Forrest, Carlos Palomino, Pipino Cuevas, and Buddy McGirt should be added to that list if your doing a tournament of welterweights since 1975, and if you want to actually venture back into the mid-late 60's, Jose Napoles.
     
  12. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Walk with me does have a point. Benny Leonard considered one of the greatests ever looks pretty sloppy on film.

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  13. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    In my opinion boxing started to truly modernize from the 30's-40's onward. Prior to that a guy like Leonard was considered more of a pioneer, and the footage available is that of a past prime Leonard anyway. Also, he doesn't appear sloppy at all, just of a different mold technically.
     
  14. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well it seems technically primitive. Past prime or not technically that wont change much. His combinations didnt seem as crisp, his footwork was basic, defense was basic, alot of the punches looked like wider swings rather than straight shots.

    30's-40's still had alot of old time coaches teaching old styled boxing therefore alot of fighters learning that way, even though some were quite ahead of the game.

    I could never get around the whole holding fists at chest level.
     
  15. Jbuz

    Jbuz Belt folder Full Member

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    Are you kidding? There is plenty of Marciano footage. Maybe you need to just get up and look for it somewhere other than youtube.

    If you want to do it, make the criteria that the fighter has to have sufficient footage. I.e. No Harry Greb.