All Timers Who Are Over Rated....

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by walk with me, Aug 31, 2015.


  1. attaboi

    attaboi Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Oh lord.:patsch
     
  2. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Jack Johnson: 6'1, 74" reach.
    Jack Dempsey: 6'1, 77" reach.
    Corrie Sanders: 6'4, 77" reach.
    Lamont Brewster: 6'2, 77" reach.
     
  3. qwertyblahblah

    qwertyblahblah Boxing Addict Full Member

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    3 that come first to mind:

    Pryor: I see his name sometimes on top 100 lists, and he has neither the record nor the ability to be there. He had the Cervantes win and of course the great win over Arguello, but his title reign was otherwise pretty uninspiring. A lot of fringe contenders in a weak division that no one really cared about at the time. And that he could've beaten Leonard or that Leonard is revisionist myth. Pryor was pretty easy to hit, was knocked down too many times, and wasn't any facet of his game that would give him an edge over a Leonard. Duran-Pryor is still one of my dream fighters, but a fight I wouldn't see Pryor winning. Great fighter, just not that great.

    Marciano: Case has already been well-made. If he wasn't in a great era it wasn't his fault, but the legends that were his best wins were badly faded when he beat them

    Ali: Even If Ali's the greater heavyweight over Louis, it's an insult to Robinson, Armstrong, Greb, Duran, Pep, and possibly many more lighter-weight fighters who've hade clearly more distinguished careers

    Any fighters whose prime was before the 1920s: Boxing fundamentals were still developing through the 20s, and pioneering fighters just weren't able to do what modern greats did in the ring. And if boxers before the 30s were as skilled we don't have the video evidence to know it. I'm calling nostalgiac bull**** on accolades of geezers from the 1950s insisting the heroes of their youth like Johnson, Langford, Gans could beat Robinson, Pep, Charles, Moore, etc. And fighters like Greb and Benny Leonard from the 20s when boxing had only just removed its training wheels like should get at most relative praise.. rIn fact I think the great 'pioneers' would look comical if we could see them fight.

    Any fighters whose prime was after the 1970s: Since then boxers fight so much less, the talent-pool especially in the US is so much thinner, and especially recently top fighters or at least their promoters generally carefully select fights and avoid top competition. Boxing's regressed and insisting otherwise is deluding ourselves and insulting to the true legends of the sport's history. The vast majority of any ATG lists have to be comprised of fighters from the 30s-70s.
     
  4. suley0121

    suley0121 Tupac isn't dead banned Full Member

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    Calzaghe, Marciano, Dempsey,

    But Harry Greb is the most- there is no footage!