Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by tinman, Nov 6, 2021.
All or nothing at all.
Blown up welterweight
Point is, he got banged out regardless of speed
...plus Plant might be fast fast fast ,but not for 12 rounds against the best fighter he has ever faced...by the way great post...
Plant is not that twitchy/explosive. To me, Canelo is more explosive with his hands. Plant might be a but lighter on his feet but that's about it.
Yes Clenelo will have to be even more overrated than I already think he is to lose to the likes of Caleb Plant whose slickness is nowhere near Brit Level and who is always breaking his hands even against all those rotten pumpkins he's been feasting on
Plants eye doesn't look sufficiently healed, canelos gonna open it up, he needed more time to heal
No, GGG lost cause he simply didn't impose himself. Out of prime my ass, he was undefeated against Canelo and only had one tough fight against Jacobs before. He became past his prime after he lost the 2nd fight cause he didn't fight Mexican style and people needed a reason to degrade Canelo's greatest win. Plant is alright, but definitely needs the boxing god's favor tonight to win
Here are a list of fighters all worse than Canelo with smoke and mirrors resume:
Errol Spence: who only fought broken Brook, B skilled Porter, and two 140lb Garcia's
Beterbiev: besides one good fight has yet to fight Bivol, Smith, Ramirez or any one with a recognizable name
Charlo: pick which one. Whether its failing to unify against a small Argentinian or getting worked by a semi-retired russian
Davis: who jumps between divisions looking for alphabet titles while not even mentioning a real belt champion in his weight class
Plant can focus on Canelo's chapped lips.
maybe, but i dont think the difference in speed will make any difference to the outcome. they are pretty close in speed, but the weight each one puts behind that speed is night and day. even if plant landed 2 to every one canelo lands, it will feel like canelo landed 3.
the speed battle will be sorted quickly. plant is planning to come over the top of canelos jab, to try and take that away from him. he will look to take advantage of his reach and speed by shutting his jab down. if his speed does get the better of that little battle, it will be interesting to see what canelo does in response. how will canelo deal with being beaten in one of the basic steps in this dance? or, lets say canelo beats him with feints, so he manages to still beat him with timing and adjustment. How does plant respond? does he have an extra step for the one canelo is now showing him? or does he start to fall apart as it starts to dawn on him that hes never seen this level of technical proficiency? keep an eye on this battle in the first couple rds. it will tell you a lot about what they are telling each other, and those that can see what is happening, who is controlling what.
Timing beats speed
To win, Plant needs to KO Clenelo. That isn't happening.
Betrrbiev beat down Gvozdyk and has been avoided. GGG clearly won two fights against Clenelo that were stolen by corruption. Along with several other gift decisions to Clenelo, his resume is the type that would be scripted by Vince McMahon. His entire skillset relies on not getting koed and being able to cycle peds.
I do think plant will frustrate canelo with his speed and movement but his stamina has always been suspect and will let him down. When it does canelo will target that body and start to hit him with power and combos breaking him down.
Khan was a blown up LWW