All you idiots, listen: Styles make fights!

JC is a master at standing on the outside and cutting off the jab and counter punching it is his the part of his fighting that i think is the best but he does not have to use i that often as he has the ability to work on the inside and throw flurries.
JC would prob lose 1 or 2 rounds at the start when he goes in to test the water and may get hit a few times but after 3 he will adapt and go to the outside and just counter punch and use his jab which is very under rated to dominate the fight with the final 9-10 rounds being dominated by JC.

walking onto JC is the worst thing you can ever do to beat him you have to be a defensive master with amazing counterpunching abilities and make him chase you down.

pavlik's style was made for JC but i can see Jc losing 2 rounds unlike BHOP who won all 12. JC knows he can go for 12 rounds so would prob go and trade with pavlik just to see what he has got and if he could beat him on the inside and this is the only reason JC could lose rounds

 

Thank you. :good

 

One of the funniest posts in a while, busta.


Not as much for its content.


More because of who it came from.

 

Anyone who has actually followed Calzaghe's whole career and not just seen his fights post Lacy would realize that Pavlik is tailor made for Joe and would get embarrassed by him

Joe only gets hit consistently by opponents he doesn't respect. When he actually pays attention to defense and shows some respect he's very difficult to land cleanly on. Just watch the Lacy fight for evidence. He loves it when opponents try to be the aggressor and he can counterpunch them. That's what would happen against Pavlik

The only times Joe has been dropped have been on counterpunches when he was trading or moving forward. He's never been seriously hurt in the ring. The worst he's ever been hurt was when Mitchell clocked him with a picture perfect left hook in the middle of an exchange. The result? He was on his feet immediately and stopped Mitchell in the same round. Get a clue. Pavlik's orthodox, come forward style and mediocre hand/footspeed is a recipe for a beatdown against Calzaghe

 

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that is why i said that JC may lose the first 2 rounds as he would go in and see what pavlik actually had in his hands and not respect him until pavlik shows him something that will earn his respect and then JC will focus on his defence go to the outside and work behind the jab coming in and counter punching with accuracy and perfect timing.
f JC does not get hurt in the first few rounds then there is no need for him to really concentrate on his defence and will go in and trade blow for blow as JC knows his chin will hold up and he knows he has the stamina and skill to outwork any boxer from 160 up.

also JC does not cut up he has only been cut twice and both of them were from headbuts (against hop i think it was the headbutt and not the right which caused the cut)

 

We know
I cant believe you think you need to reinforce this obvious truism,as if the rest of us are dumb idiots who believe otherwise and need reminding.

Would anybody reading this who doesnt think styles make fights please tell me?I want to see how many respond.

 

Very good thread. This is what I've always been doing when analyzing fights and breaking them down. I ALWAYS look at their styles(and the intangibles that goes along with it) first and foremost before anything else. Many put alot of emphasis on a fighter's resume like who has he beaten and stuff like that. But IMO analyzing their styles is way more important than bringing up their resumes to prove who'd win in a fight.

"Styles make fights" is pretty much an overused phrase in this sport of ours. But the fact is it is one of the truest quotes in all of boxing.

 

Yup but for the most part the "calzaghe would have done the same" have not gotten to out of hand which is a good first step. but I couldn't agree more styles make fights. To video game lovers play Mega Man X Robot A power Kills Robot B but Robot C kills Robot A and B kills C etc.

 

I think to a great extent the fact Hopkins dominated Pavlik and showed he was not shot to bits is also another reason Calzaghe fans are more confident about his ability to beat Pavlik.
The Hopkins Calzaghe fight was very messy and many thought that the two performed well below par so how Hopkins and Calzaghe performed in their next fights was important to see what was left.

I still think Pavlik loses to Calzaghe by a clear decision but Calzaghe would be hit more than Hopkins was in that fight. On the other side Pavlik would be hit a lot more times as well.