Allegations against Ward, his Team and the Super six Tournement

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by trampie, Nov 23, 2009.


  1. nipplefloss

    nipplefloss Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I believe he stated that he counted 5 accidental headbutts, not that Ward butted Kessler 5 times. There is a difference since one obviously allows that either Kessler or both fighters were equally to blame for some of them, while the other puts the blame squarely on Ward.

    And no, there were no elbows. There were short punches that may have looked like elbows to you, but there were none. Kessler said nothing about elbows, Sauerland said nothing about them, the commentators didn't, there are no replays showing them, Kessler never reacted as if he had been elbowed...sorry friend, didn't happen.
     
  2. nipplefloss

    nipplefloss Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It started ridiculous. It's full on ******ed now.
     
  3. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Funny thing is which one of the judges in the Froch Dirrell fight was from the USA??? Did you hear us bitching about that??? Not one judge from the USA in that fight, nor was the Ref.

    Stop cring and accept the fact that Kessler was dominated and move on.
     
  4. nipplefloss

    nipplefloss Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Of the ACTUAL judges for the fight, one was American. I couldn't care less who the judges might have been, that's who they were. Sauerland ultimately signed off on the judge swap and the ref. If they felt it was such an egregious disadvantage they should have taken the belt off the line, as they threatened to. They stated that they were satisfied with the changes made. They grossly underestimated Ward, went in expecting to KO him, and were unpleasantly surprised when Ward made it a fight.

    In any case, it's a tournament, and we could very well see the situation you describe at some later point. If Ward and his promoter sign off on it then all you can say is "they probably shouldn't have done that". The judges ended up being irrelevant and the worst thing that any sane person has said about the ref is that he should have penalized for the headbutt, but that Kessler was getting whooped regardless.
     
  5. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Its always fair when your guy wins right:good

    But if he doesnt then there must be something unjust, no way could Kessler just lose, not to a vile american cheater:roll:
     
  6. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Kessler got outboxed from round 1. Game over.
     
  7. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    If he was afraid of having an unfair disadvantage why did he get in the ring. He could have said no. And waited until they gave him a neutral line up of officials. Funny he loses then complains would he have said a thing had he won
     
  8. MemoCan

    MemoCan *****49ers Express***** Full Member

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    Kessler got headed butted, and you can make a legitimate argument that like the one in tenth round it seemed intentional-Ward weather it was the headbutts or not, he roughed him up. However, with or without the rough tactics he (Kessler) would of lost. I think his own arrogance (feeling he was superior), lack of training (not sparing enough, and not sparring with southpaws), among other things cost him the match. It's a good reality check and wake up call for Kessler. I think he'll bounce back against Froch.
     
  9. IrnBruMan

    IrnBruMan Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    hahaha, are you kidding?

    How many threads were started claiming Dirrell was robbed? :lol::lol::lol:
     
  10. demigawd

    demigawd Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Correction. The Ref said there were five accidental headbutts. He never said who caused them. And looking at the replay, three out of five of them were mutual headbutts - that is, they bumped into each other.
     
  11. jordan1

    jordan1 Juan Lopez #1 Full Member

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    Hay all you Kessler groupies if you would have pulled Kesslers Dick out of your mouths you might of see the fight.....:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl
     
  12. Blind Sheikh

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    Allegations and attempts to discredit any wins. Pathetic. Won't be long before Ward is accused to steroids.
     
  13. zico2010

    zico2010 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Plenty of americans crying like bitches after Froch beat that ballet dancer from the states.
     
  14. Thom

    Thom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's "Wlad was drugged" 2.0. This some of the most pathetic and dishonest whining that I've ever heard after a fight.
     
  15. Laudrup

    Laudrup Active Member Full Member

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    I just rewatched the fight.

    Ward comes in with his head first from round 2 -11. He headbutts Kessler 4 times as i se it. And he holds while hitting the entire fight.

    Dont run away from Ward being very, very dirty.

    I mean - he was the better man, but he was extremely dirty and won the fight because of the head butts which caused Kesslers cuts.

    If it wasnt for the headbutts the fight could have been very different. Kessler complains after round 5 that he cant see. Just after one of the head butts.

    Even the American commentators reffered to Ward as Billy the goat.

    Dont be such a wanker.