Allen green....smw tournament

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  1. JoeAverage

    JoeAverage Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Green talk the talk, but doesn't walk the walk.

    He has never beaten a good fighter, and he lost clearly to Miranda - who the super six would all beat clearly.

    Imo. the six could possibly beat eachother but I doubt Green could beat any of them and if he did it would be the fluke single win.

    Bute, Pavlik and even Andrade should be considered much before Green is.
     
  2. aceshigh

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    Green has nobody but his own dumb ass to blame for his career.

    The way that he ****ed over ESPN at the last minute has come back to bite him in the wallet.
     
  3. JoeAverage

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    Green has proven that he cannot make it at SMW.

    Taylor and AA dominated MW and there is good reason to think they will do well at SMW until proven otherwise. Taylor lost to Froch, but was winning the fight.

    Green has been operating at a much lower level and couldn't even handle that. Sure he was ill, but we still cannot just assume that he would have been a champion without the illness. Let him try to take on Bute or Pavlik first and then he can state a claim. Right now he has nothing.
     
  4. David_TheMan

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    How has he proven that he cannot make it at SMW?

    He is undefeated at SMW. Taylor was beaten by a big guy with power but one deminsional at MW, he was outboxed by Spinks, he was KO'd by a crude brawler at SMW, there is nothing about him that says he is going to be a good SMW or deserves to be in the tourney. AA's claim to fame is be beat Miranda twice, Miranda was outclassed by a green Ward. What does this show as far as him deserving to be in the touney.

    Green has been trying to fight Bute, I believe they keep failing at the contract stage. As for Pavlik, what does he have to do with SMW, Pavlik is a MW.
     
  5. JoeAverage

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    I meant to say that Miranda has proven he cannot compete at this level.

    Taylor has proven he can. Beating Hopkins twice, winning most rounds against Froch, going level with Pavlik in two fights, beating several other fighters that are better than Green's best win.

    Ward and Direll are greener, but they both really have not shown us their limit and it certainly seems to be somewhat higher than Green's limit, with Ward's win over Miranda and Green's loss to the same Miranda.

    So the facts suggest that Green is at a clearly lower level than the others in the tourney. Now you may say - but he was injured. Well, maybe he was, but even if we totally discount the fight, there is no fight left on his CV to suggest he belongs in this tourney.

    Let him beat Bute, Pavlik or Andrade - and then we can talk about him perhaps deserving a place. For now he has no claim whatsoever.
     
  6. Lampley

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    Green has no victories on his ledger to suggest he belongs in this tournament. Not only that, he has proved unreliable to do what he says he'll do.

    If you were organizing this tournament and fronting all the money, would YOU trust Green to show up prepared, sober, etc?
     
  7. Bodysnatcher

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  9. brood3

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    Easier said than done. Why you scared Miranda would beat Green again? I want to see a rematch. So Green and his fans can stop making excuses for his loss.

    Oh and just because he's beating tomato cans at SMW it doesn't make it him unbeatable. Other than Miranda he hasn't fought any serious contender since.
     
  10. Badlok

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  11. Fat Tony

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    3: He never beat a top15 opponent.
     
  12. brood3

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    That settles it Miranda/Green 2 at SMW. I like their first fight and their second will probably be better. Its a great test for Green and a chance to for him to prove he is part of the class at SMW.
     
  13. twopiece

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    I wonder who's going to drop out. It's perfect the way it is now, so it would be a real shame if that happened. Green would be a good addition though.
     
  14. twopiece

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