Almost impossible to beat mayweather

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  1. Typhoon

    Typhoon Well-Known Member Full Member

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    1. If rounds are close, Floyd will get the round
    2. If nothing happens in the round, Floyd gets it by default
    3. If Floyd lands bigger shots, he gets round
    4. If opponent lands the bigger shots, opponent wins rounds


    How do you beat him like this? very very difficult. You see, every judge is scared of giving Floyd his first loss. The opponent has to do something special to win rounds.

    In an average mayweather fight, there are about 4-5 rounds where neither opponent lands anything significant. Floyd may land a few soft jabs and opponent hit a lot of air, maybe only sneak in a couple of jabs. Unfortunately, these rounds aren't scored 10-10, as they should be scored. Judges give all these rounds to Floyd. I think there are a few reasons for this. 1. Judges expect opponent to clearly win rounds; you aern't gonna give Floyd his first loss unless you so produce something special 2. Floyd makes opponents hit air and this wows judges, even if he himself doesn't land anything

    So, it's almost impossible. His next opponent will have to have a clear understand of this. You will not win any close rounds; you will not win any rounds where there is no action; you will only win rounds where you hit him and hit him good.

    There can be no close rounds, no inactive rounds in a fight, you need 7 rounds of landing big shots. 7 ROUNDS! Who can land big shots vs Mayweather for 7 rounds? Of course, you can KO him but hard to do.
     
  2. Stylez G.

    Stylez G. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So you think you should be able to get a decision over Floyd by throwing less punches and landing under 7 punches a round, while Mayweather lands almost twice as much?
     
  3. Typhoon

    Typhoon Well-Known Member Full Member

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    you think Mayweather should get rounds by landing a few more soft jabs? i call this 'touching', not punching. So let's take a hypothetical round, for arguments sake. Opponent is chasing Floyd for 3 minutes, attacking but hitting air. Floyd sneaks in 7 soft jabs, 7 little punches that barely touch the opponent. The opponent lands 2 jabs himself but is attacking, trying to make the fight whilst Floyd is looking really good moving, running and ducking.

    you argue, clear round for Floyd. I argue, nothing happened... 10-10 or 10-9 for opponent trying to make the fight.
     
  4. cslb

    cslb Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You mean it's almost impossible for Pac to beat him. Hearns wouldn't leave it in the hands of the judges.
     
  5. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Manny was trying to out counter punch the counter puncher. That's accepting defeat. Gun shy. Unwilling to pay the price of admission because Floyd was controlling range.

    Manny lost, get over it.
     
  6. Enigmadanks

    Enigmadanks Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's ring generalship at its finest. He decreased Pacman's punch output by nearly half of what he normally averages per fight. He only engaged him in brief periods of time, when he felt like engaging.

    I can understand people who like action packed fighters be critical with Mayweather's style, but he's a master pugilist in the same mold as Pernell WHitaker and Willie Pep. I never see those guys get chastised for being in "boring UD" fights, rather they're revered by all historians and old school fans for being elite technicians with incredible levels of ring generalship.
     
  7. Tekniqs

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  8. Stylez G.

    Stylez G. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The problem is, Mayweather wasn't simply landing soft punches. He was landing clean, sharp blows. Trust me, if the punches were so soft, then Manny wouldn't have been so affraid of getting countered. But again though, just to make it clear, do you think Pacquiao should've gotten the decision in that fight?
     
  9. Unforgiven

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    I don't think it's necessarily judging bias at all.

    I think Mayweather has the skill to grind the fight to a halt, and then shade those close rounds.
    When he gets in trouble he covers up so well that his opponent ends up backing off and stalking him.

    Pacquiao's too old to fight in his old style anyway, so he's not going to be pulling the triggers as consistently as he used to.

    Mayweather can win a fight by a wide score but in reality he didn't do much more than his opponent at all, he just skilfully shaded those rounds.

    He "nicks" the rounds.
    It's what he does.

    In the old days when boxing was a brutal sport, he'd probably have been thrown out the ring for "stalling". He would have had points deducted.
    The old school referees would probably have kicked both him AND Pacman out for "faking" !

    nowadays, it passes for the biggest fight ever ! :lol:
     
  10. christo

    christo Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Yeah, because he fights only hasbeens his whole career.
    I want to see him fight Thurman in Sept. or his whole
    career is a big charade. Except for low IQ'd and low self
    esteem morons who actually buy into his TBE moniker,
    real aficianados won't put him in the same company as
    Armstrong, Robinson, Leonard, Hearns, Hagler or Duran.
    Reason, he never fought the best when they were at their
    best. Too many ?? marks on maypickers career for him to
    be ATG.
     
  11. Typhoon

    Typhoon Well-Known Member Full Member

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    that's what Canelo, Maidana and all 48 opponents have said.

    Come on now, admit that judges mostly give Floyd all rounds where barely nothing happens. It's a fact, admit it.
     
  12. Jake LaMotta

    Jake LaMotta Lights Out Full Member

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    You mean it's hard to beat the judges in Floyd's fights
     
  13. fitzroy boy_iron mike

    fitzroy boy_iron mike Active Member Full Member

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    I didn't see many clean, sharp blows mate. I saw flashy-flash punches by the master performer and master of the dark arts Mr Money May.

    Credit where it's due- he knows how to win and by his own admission, he always finds a way. Each incremental advantage he can get he will seize. Engaging in a fight and not running for 2 mins of each round- why do that if you need to...?

    Imagine what would happen to him if he lost. Al wouldn't be too happy. That's why he runs like a factory hen.
     
  14. cslb

    cslb Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Do you really think that Pac was even competitive in that fight? If anyone should complain about the judges, it's Marquez who got jobbed in his third fight with Pac. He solved that problem in his fourth fight.
     
  15. christo

    christo Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Exactly! The point I was trying to make clarified by another
    poster. Thanks:good