Alright Fellaz, I Need A Really Good Routine

freddy-wak · Feb 15, 2008

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I HAD TO DO THIS CAUSE I CAN'T START THREADS WITH ALOT OF WORDS.....

El Puma · Feb 15, 2008

Do light to heavy cardio in the morning and olympic style lifts in the evening.

I am the exact dimensions you are looking to be and to be honest, i am a ****ing monster/beast, thanks to the articles at tnation.com and gymjones.com

younghypnotiq · Feb 15, 2008

bro u have pretty much everyhing u need right there.

joekirkbycobra · Feb 16, 2008

its all about the food more protein less carbs and fat its the mix of carbs and protein that will make you gain weight

and drink plenty of water, water only makes you heavier for a short period unless you mix with carbs because each carb holds 3 grams of water

viru§™ · Feb 16, 2008

joekirkbycobra said:

its all about the food more protein less carbs and fat its the mix of carbs and protein that will make you gain weight

and drink plenty of water, water only makes you heavier for a short period unless you mix with carbs because each carb holds 3 grams of water
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Not true.

An Analogy I like to use a construction worker analogy to explain this. Imagine that your muscles are like a house you're trying to build. The bricks used to build the house represent the amino acids (from the ingestion of protein) while the money you're paying the workers (so that they'll do the work) represents the carbs and fat you eat.
Finally, the workers represent the factors involved in the protein synthesis process (Testosterone mainly) and the truck bringing the bricks to the workers represent insulin (which plays a capital role in transporting the nutrients to the muscle cells).

If you don't give the workers enough bricks (protein) they won't be able to build the house as fast as they could. So in that regard, an insufficient protein intake will slow down muscle growth.
Similarly, if you don't pay your workers enough (low carbs or fat intake) they won't be as motivated to work hard. As a result, the house won't be built very rapidly. In fact, if you really cut the workers' pay, they might even get mad, go on strike, and start demolishing the house (catabolism due to an excessively low caloric intake). So in that regard, not consuming enough protein or calories to support muscle growth will lead to a slower rate of gains.
Now, what happens if you start to send more bricks (increase protein intake) to the workers? Well, they'll be able to build the house more rapidly because they aren't lacking in raw material. However, at some point, sending more and more bricks won't lead to a faster rate of construction because the workers can only perform so much work in any given amount of time. For example, if your crew can add 1000 bricks per day to the walls, giving them 2000 bricks per day will be useless: it exceeds their work capacity. So the excess bricks will go to waste (literally).

In the same regard, if you increase your workers' salary (increase caloric intake) chances are their motivation will also increase and as a result they'll build the house faster. However, just like with bricks, there comes a point where increasing the workers' salary won't have any effect on the house-building rate: the workers will reach their physical limit. Once this limit is reached you can increase their salary all you want; they won't be able to add bricks to the house any faster.
What I'm trying to say is you can't bully your body into building muscle by force-feeding it. Adding nutrients and calories will have a positive effect on muscle growth until you reach your saturation point. After that, any additional calories will be stored as body fat.
So while it's true the more you eat the bigger you'll get, the additional weight will be in the form of fat, not muscle tissue.
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Two of the best setups to gain muscle mass are C40/P30/F30 or C33/P33/F33.

joekirkbycobra · Feb 16, 2008

loads of water and protein low carbs and fat is key

viru§™ · Feb 17, 2008

joekirkbycobra said:

loads of water and protein low carbs and fat is key
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Did you actually read what I posted? Low carbs and fat is not the way to go.

joekirkbycobra · Feb 17, 2008

viru§ said:

Did you actually read what I posted? Low carbs and fat is not the way to go.
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no i didnt actually sorry i didnt realise i already posted
woops il read it now m8

joekirkbycobra · Feb 17, 2008

ok im sincerely sorry

you have a very good point

so not over indulging is key

viru§™ · Feb 17, 2008

The main thing is tracking calories, which nobody seems to want to do.

freddy-wak · Feb 17, 2008

ok fellaz, thanks for the health advice, but i need a pretty solid routine

El Puma · Feb 17, 2008

freddy-wak said:

ok fellaz, thanks for the health advice, but i need a pretty solid routine
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I told you...now do the research,get a pen and notebook, follow workouts and train.

What's next freddy, you want us to do the workout for you?

freddy-wak · Feb 18, 2008

El Puma said:

I told you...now do the research,get a pen and notebook, follow workouts and train.

What's next freddy, you want us to do the workout for you?
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can you nowadays, **** i wont be surprised....:rofl

but i can't work out in the mornings no more...my sitter don't show up till 8a.m. and by that time i gotta get ready for work...

before my mom would show up at 6;30 giving me time to workout and still get ready....but my sister moved in with her :-( :| :twisted: and now she has to watch her kids for a bit in the morning..

joekirkbycobra · Feb 18, 2008

freddy-wak said:

can you nowadays, **** i wont be surprised....:rofl

but i can't work out in the mornings no more...my sitter don't show up till 8a.m. and by that time i gotta get ready for work...

before my mom would show up at 6;30 giving me time to workout and still get ready....but my sister moved in with her :-( :| :twisted: and now she has to watch her kids for a bit in the morning..
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so how long ou planning on training 4?

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