Alvarez Beat Kovalev in Spectacular fashion, what does that say about Ward's 2 fights?

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  1. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    yes they do, anyone gets elite credit for beating an elite, stands to reason.

    ward did it twice so he gets double what alvie gets.
     
  2. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    His coaches (who he thought were friends), the ref, judges and ward stretching out the negotiations - threatening to retire instead of honoring the rematch clause, refusing neutral officials( which later proved to work in Ward's favor) ensuring he loses out on the bigger purse split, all contributed towards having a hand in absolutely destroying the very fabric of what makes Kovalev who he is.

    A ll this and more inevitably had driven him to the bottle.
     
  3. BCS8

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    I hope that is not true.
     
  4. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    "Alvarez didn't have those luxuries."

    Well Alvarez had the luxury of facing a fighter who was no longer the force that he was 3 years ago, due to Andre Ward breaking him down and handing him 2 back to back losses.

    As a result of those losses, Sergey Kovalev is now a different fighter both mentally and physically.
     
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  5. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Get real man.

    This level of ignorance is staggering.

    He didn't lose the rematch due to a combination to the nuts.

    It beggars belief how people still keep claiming this.

    Tony Weeks stopped that fight, because Sergey Kovalev had nothing left in the tank.

    He was hit with a great right hand from Andre, and there was no response. He ended up being hunched over, taking unanswered shots.

    Yes, the last shot was definitely low, 100%. But you have to realise that Weeks had already seen enough at that point. That last shot was the straw that broke the camel's back. That last shot could have landed on the arm, the elbow, the hip or the glove etc, his mind had been made up. Sergey was done. He'd already looked to Weeks in vain in the previous rounds, where Andre had landed 2 body shots which were 100% clean.

    That last shot actually robbed Andre of having a better win.
     
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  6. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Your post is a sham, based on emotion.

    Your 4 points don't note that Sergey was hunched over, with absolutely nothing coming back in return. He'd fired nothing in return since taking the big right hand. Yes, the very last blow was low. But it was too late at that point, because Weeks had already seen enough. You want to highlight the very last shot, without taking anything else into account.

    How many 100% clear low blows did Andre land in the rematch?

    Almost all of his body shots landed on and around the 'K' logo on the top of Sergey's shorts. And that area was deemed clean, as per Weeks' pre-fight instructions.

    I suggest you go and watch the fight again.

    Also, go and count how many rabbit punches Andre received in the fight.
     
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  7. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Look this is really quite simple and straight forward.

    The SK that Ward fought, was an alcoholic whose mind was all over the bloody the place.

    Just what do you think a daily diet of alcoholic whilst barely training does to an individual mentally and physically? Do you think it simply gave ham a bit dutch courage and boost in conditioning?

    I'm sure we don't need to go into the deleterious efforts of alcohol on a person's health and wellbeing.

    For the first time in however long he was sober, focused and with a team fully behind him when going into this fight.

    You're behaving as if Kovalev has not had any victories since his lost to Ward.

    You're not even intellectually honest enough to accept the fact that Ward lost in the first fight in all but name.
    We're we talk about the GGGvs Canelo it is generally accepted that GGG beat the **** out of Canelo. We don't pretend that just because the rigged judges scored the fight another way, that Canelo didn't get beaten.
     
  8. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    we cant pretend that your 2 fav fighters didnt get beat either.
     
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  9. IKSAB

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  10. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    I suggest you watch this video very carefully, before you make a fool of yourself so you will see clearly where the infringements took place since you clearly don't know what constitutes a low blow.

    Video has been timestamped to make it easier for your eyes to see the corruption in all its glory!


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  11. lefthook89

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    Ward won via SD the first bout and won via TKO in the second, that hasn't changed nor will it ever lol.
     
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    Having trunks pulled up high doesn't mean its illegal for the opponent to land shots on the belt line.

    All Wards shots landed on the same spot Dave Allen hit Webb just before delivering the over hand KO.

    Allens body shot on the band wasn't illegal and neither were Wards until the final blow that went south as Kovalev was hunched over unable to defend himself from the attack that came after the big right hand on his chin.
     
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  13. timeout

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    yeah but...but....but....but...

    ward is a throwback fighter.
     
  14. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Kov was drinking before he fought Ward! I like how you sack sucking fanfoys pivot from the reality of what happened to your hero. You just brush over what happened like, yeah yeah Alvarez won but, that damned Ward is a cheating coward bla bla bla whaaaaaaaaaaa! LOL Ward vs Kov, The ass whoopin that keeps on giving! Splendid!
     
  15. Chutz

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    There's different ways to win a fight. KO doesn't always mean better. I thought Kovalev edged the first fight but Ward was superb in the rematch. Is ALvarez KO a broken Kovalev better than Ward's win? For me no chance
     
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