Alvarez got slapped around the ring by a 35 year old

And GGG lost round 9 as well.

 

Nothing surprising. The weaknesses he showed, he has always had.

Canelo actually did better than I had expected.

 

Ggg best win was against freaking Jacob lol. I mean seriously if Jacob is the best win for Ggg before fighting canelo? Then don't give me he's 35 years old crap cause Ggg didn't fought real top great fighters before canelo. I mean seriously. Fernando Vargas fought way way way way way way better fighters before turning 29 years old then all of the fighters Ggg beat in which proves my case.

 

Wasn't it the other way around? Where was GGG and the present he promised? He was neutralized by Canelo.

 

Truth...

 

Lolol stop. Ggg fought and beat a bunch of nobodies except fighting his best win vs freaking Jacob in which Jacob ain't even close to a great fighter lolol. Those resumes Ggg has? How could he look old overnight in his biggest fight in his career vs canelo? Smh.

 

Just watched it again last night. It was close. I wouldn't argue.
6-6 is giving too much benefit of the doubt to canelo.
Watching with my GGG google on and influence a bit by lederman score card, initially I only give canelo round 2,3 and 11. Re watched last night round
9, 10 could have gone to canelo as well.
Round 1 not much happen but influential to the total score.
I gave it to GGG mainly for control although Canelo landed one of the cleaner body shot.
I thought canelo gave round 12 away after a good start.

 

Idiot He defeated Canelo easily at the Weekend...were you watching with your eyes closed.!!!

 

Nah bruh. You speak of the last rounds for example and you just mention how Canelo clearly outworked GGG and was more effective for the first minute of those rounds, then claim he let G get back in it. Well "back in it" was just walking forward and missing a lot of punches on a gassed Canelo lmao.

This is no lie. When you dictate the pace, you are setting the ring generalship but if you're missing a lot of shots in the process it hurts you being the "effective aggressor" which then scores ring generalship for the opponent and defense. You're also knocked for clean punching.

So while you guys sit here and reward G for coming forward and dictating the pace, that doesn't matter when the other guy is still landing the best shots and eluding a lot of punches in the process. That's not ring generalship.

As far as the middle rounds where G was most successful, you're case does make sense but, and a huge BUT......
Canelo was just as effective if not more effective still eluding a bunch of G's shots and still landing the more effective punches.

Now you mention heart. This is almost laughable. Better words to describe what and why G had to in more effort was "stubbornness" and "pride". G was the limited fighter last Saturday because he had no plan B or C. In fact the only reason he had only plan A is because he had no choice. He threw the same combinations. Couldn't time Canelo hence why he didn't even go to the body. That's not heart. Will, maybe but not heart. He also underestimated Canelo.

G's effort should be credited yes, but his effectiveness needs to be put in the correct context. The way you guys claim I don't score G dictating the pace (this is often confused with "ring generalship", there's a huge difference) is the same like you guys don't credit Canelo's outstanding defense (an actual scoring criteria) which allowed him to block, slip and flat elude majority of G's punches.

Yes Canelo has always had stamina issues but that was more on him than it was "G" cutting off the ring lmao.

As stated by a lot of observers, Canelo came and went to the ropes as he pleased. He didn't have much to fear, in fact, it was tentative G who looked like he had more to fear hence why his power was not a factor during the fight or was abysmal altogether.

Canelo hurt G more on the back foot than G dished out "going forward". Plus when Canelo chose to, he hurt G more going forward as well. I'm very grateful with your well thought out post and you actually being able to have a conversation.

I just disagree is all.

 

Ring generalship is based more on "effectiveness", not "effort" lmao

 

Slapped around you say? Did you look at the other guys swollen head and face? maybe you are referencing a different fight.

 

Then you should never talk about boxing ever again if you think ggg easily beat canelo.

 

First 3, arguably last 3 and round 9 to Canelo would make it a 7-5 sway in favor of Canelo which is totally reasonable.

 

Ring generalship, defense, and clean punching is part of scoring criteria. Unafective criteria is not.

 

Who ran the most from G?
Canelo..

Who got booed by his own fans?
Canelo.

Who got a gift?
Canelo.