Always getting countered when doubling up my jab?

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  1. r1p00pk

    r1p00pk Well-Known Member Full Member

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    so im sparring, trying to keep the short guy away then i decide to do 2 stepping in jabs and i get nailed with a hard shot, whenever i try this i get countered and it really hurts :patsch Not only that, it made me so hesitant to throw another double jab ahhh

    im able to keep him at bay just by standing still and doing single jabs without stepping in. Is this right?

    the only thing i was able to land right after, i jabbed once and threw a right hand and hit him cleanly. Although im still quite new to this and dont have the muscle memory for my body to just automatically throw a right when i land a jab.

    i find it so odd trying to keep him away because im the taller guy and im usually the smaller guy trying to initiate things, is this the right way to go?
     
  2. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    Make sure you don't give up your height. It may be that you're over-committing when you step in with your jab. If it's the same counter each time, try mixing it up. Feint before throwing, jab to the body, throw an occasional lead right, and keep your upper body moving smoothly side to side. If it's the same counter from the same guy over and over, try to throw your first jab, and feint the second so that you can trigger his response and anticipate it with a counter lying in weight. If he's not engaging and trying to make you lead, step around him while you jab away from the hand he counters with so that you don't walk into anything and control distance.
     
  3. machinebus

    machinebus Member Full Member

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    Couple of questions:
    1. Are you making contact with the first jab
    2. Which punch(s) is he countering you
    3. How old are you
    4. How long have you been boxing/sparring for
    5. What weight class are you

    Thanks
    'bus
     
  4. You need to consult Jack Loew
     
  5. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The thing about jabs and right hand counters...if he really wants to counter over your jab, he will. You cannot bring it back fast enough or high enough or anything else.
    I would guess, if he is only landing the right hand when you double jab, that you are cheating on the second jab, kind of shuffling it, if that makes sense. Instead of "doubling" the jab, try throwing two jabs, one at a time, one right after the other. I'd bet that it is the 'doubling', the hurrying part that is getting you hit.
     
  6. Anglosaxon

    Anglosaxon FASTEST HANDS ON ESB Full Member

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    I think he should give up boxing, if he can't work out how to nullify a move that keeps happening, he is only fit for stacking shelves and nothing too taxing on his mind.

    Duhhhhh if I double my jab i get hit n hurt, duhhhhh what do i do duhhhhhh:patsch:patsch:lol::lol::patsch:dead
     
  7. nick6

    nick6 Active Member Full Member

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    yer because that's how it works every time you can't do anything you should just give up instead of asking for advice :patsch If thats what you do then your only fit enough for stacking shelves because your never going to get good at anything.
     
  8. bobandweave

    bobandweave Member Full Member

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    Boxing is about movement, angles and leverage. Move you head, your hands and your feet to get yourself out of trouble and into the correct position. No two punches should be throw from exactly the same location since your opponent is unlikely to be standing motionless. If you are getting hit easily, it might be that you are telegraphing your punches, "doubling" or otherwise. Of course whenever you do something in the ring you should try to do it as quickly as possible while keeping yourself in tune with your opponent's rhythm. Your boxing trainer will eventually explain all these things to you. When you get hit a little too easily, what does he do?
     
  9. bballchump11

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    :rofl
     
  10. r1p00pk

    r1p00pk Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i can do what you do, and pretend i box but id rather not :verysad

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    right hand over my jab
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    only my 3rd sparring session at my new gym
    almost welterweight , 148. Still losing weight though, going to fight at 140 i hope
     
  11. bck620

    bck620 Active Member Full Member

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    Have you tried using the jab with a slip? Double jab, and slip to the outside as you throw your second one. This will move your head if he is trying to counter you with a right hand. I use this alot. Just don't be too predictable.
     
  12. Son of Gaul

    Son of Gaul Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Great post.
     
  13. Little_Mac

    Little_Mac Active Member Full Member

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    I suspect the problem is probably with your jab. You must be telegraphing it somehow.

    When you shadow box, seriously watch your jab. It should be quick, fast, and unpredictable. Are you raising your elbow before throwing? Don't do that. Short inside fighters love a guy who telegraphs his jab. Don't be that guy.

    How experienced is this guy? You sound somewhat new, so don't be too surprised when everything you do gets countered. It happens to all of us at first.

    The only way you learn how to not get hit is to get hit a bunch. Don't worry about it too much, eventually your body will figure it out on it's own. Just take your beatings and soon you'll learn how to avoid it and what works.
     
  14. machinebus

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    If a smaller fighter is countering your jab (double or otherwise) with a right hand, i would think you are coming in too close or hanging around after the first jab.

    While slipping would be effective, I don't think you need to waste the energy.
    Feinting as also mentioned will be you best bet till you get better/faster. So popping out a half jab with a slight head movement to the right should allow you to find your range (which is your underlying problem)

    Practice the one-two on the bag and shaddow boxing. Practice in sparring as well, yes you might get popped a few times but once your range finding gets better you will naturally fire that right hand the second the left connects.

    Final thing is to move. Once the right connects get out of the way. For now you might want to go for a walk or a quick jump to the side (backwards if you are careful) eventually you will be able to keep your feet planted and use body movement, but for now just GTFO.

    Summary:
    • Feint with some head movement to help get your range
    • Practice 1,2 and 1,1,2 on the bag, floor and sparring
    • MOVE, get you head out of the way after making contact

    Hope this helps
    'bus
     
  15. whopperdong

    whopperdong "sorry dan, im the man" Full Member

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