Am I missing something about Danny Garcia?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Monogamous STD, Jul 3, 2014.


  1. Monogamous STD

    Monogamous STD Ya know, Quasimoto predicted all this. Full Member

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    I can't say I'm a particular fan of his and I don't like his next fight anymore than anybody else but it seems like the regard for him is very strange throughout his career on here. He derails a very hot name that most thought would outclass him at the time with Khan. He gives another guy probably his first legit loss that was like a forum darling that the majority thought would decapitate him and does it in a very hard fight-Matthysse. Up to that point he's what 25 years old and less than thirty fights, but built up a very nice win column and still most comments about him were that he was overrated. Like before this fight was announced and before the controversial Herrera decision the guy seems to have got no support from anyone who isn't a diehard fan of his-and there's not many of those that I've seen.

    If most of the comments about you are that you're overrated and you've beaten two guys that were rated *much higher*, and you are THE champion, you can bet you're not overrated at all. Now he takes a soft touch on paper. Should it technically be allowed that the guy isn't ranked? No that sucks and the fight itself deserves hate but there are worse or similarly unheralded regardless of being ranked that not many people gave a crap about getting a shot at a title in recent times (Wach for Wlad, Fuchigami for Golovkin, Ryan Rhodes for Canelo), so why all the hate on Garcia?

    Is it just me who thinks Garcia seems to be overly criticized and unappreciated constantly no matter what he does anyway? On one hand I don't like this either and it's totally bogus but if I were one of Garcia's boys I'd say he might as well take the softest touch they allow for a break, considering he gets pretty much no respect regardless of what he does anyway. Is it because people don't like Garcia's dad being a loud, off the wall sh*t talker? I don't know. Because Danny himself seems like a pretty decent, cool guy to me. At least what I've seen. And he's been in some good fights and produced some serious knockouts. I don't see why he doesn't get more support. Is he like a giant d*ck and it's somehow flown under my radar? Is it just me or am I missing something about this guy that makes people downplay him and give him an extra helping of negativity? Again in no way am I sticking up for this turd of a fight being sanctioned for the title, and this is only about Garcia's reception overall since about 2010 when he started stepping up and getting his name on the map.
     
  2. damian38

    damian38 BigDramaShow Full Member

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    a lot of that hate is due to his partially ******ed father's disrespect of other fighters, Danny is actually quite likeable and down to earth, another reason was that a lot of people thought Lucas would decapitate him, and were proven wrong, and to this day some still haven't gotten over it
     
  3. jim jim

    jim jim Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I dont like the way he low blows all the time and doesnt really get called, his father is terrible aswell and I think theres something unlikeable about danny even though he goes on real humble. The herrea fight and now this salka fight make him look bad too, and he has no real stand out qualities as a fighter
     
  4. cippi

    cippi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    does he really low blow that much?... besides the lucas fight i never noticed it.

    he may not have any stand out qualities .. but his left hook is a monster.
    has a great chin... if u can fight lucas and kendall holt and take there punches u got a chin ... and also his timing is really good.
    ring iq footwork boxing skills all that is there.. hes a damn good fighter..

    and the herrera fight he deff underestimated him and i think he lost that fight but herrera is a good fighter hes just not a big name.

    the salka fight isnt a good one but team garcia is approaching this fight like hes comin off a loss which he really is in a lot of ppl's opinions so the fight isnt horrific like most make it seem
     
  5. Border Patrol

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    Soo... Why didn't Canelo get the "gift" against Floyd?


    I will tell you why...Because the fight was a BLOWOUT unlike the close sloppy fight that could have gone either way for Danny V Herrera. The judges gave it to the CHAMP because as tradition has it, you gotta BEAT the champ, not jab the champ.

    I am praying for a Herrera rematch... I guarantee Danny is going to put his lights out. Fluke night and you haters get all worked up about it.


    Danny got the W

    Herrera took home a nice L.


    The end.
     
  6. jim jim

    jim jim Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    naw your right he is a very good fighter and he has a lot of great qualities but just nothing realy stand out for me , ive only seen him fight twice against khan and matteyese and he did it loads, it was the way he did it too kinda seemed calculated put me off him, and if your the champ you cant just start gradully lowering your oppoision going from herrea to a non ranked guy its poor from him
     
  7. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    These are the two main reasons.

    Next reason is that he destroyed Amir Khan. Bitterness from Khan fans still resides to this day.

    Add in "Golden Boy promoted" and for some reason you have fans who will hold that against him too...

    EDIT: And he beat Morales twice, destroying him the second time. That's 3 mega popular fighters he has dropped and beaten.

    EDIT: Most importantly, though, is that boxing fans live in the moment.
     
  8. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He is over-rated by some people and that's why other people hate on him. Some of these people who over-rate him are also annoying as hell so people take it out on Danny. It's the same with his father, he is annoying and it makes people hate on Danny even though it's unfair. It is a shame because Danny doesn't seem like a bad guy at all.
     
  9. Mexi-Box

    Mexi-Box Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    :lol: he was troubled by the corpse of Erik Morales. Unless you live in the "moment," you should know that his loss to Herrera wasn't too surprising.
     
  10. WildStyle

    WildStyle J.C. Penny's belt $2.99 banned

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    He's really not that good. And he definitely isn't any kind of knockout artist.
     
  11. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    Matthysse is a cherry pick?
     
  12. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    I'm a big fan of Garcia, and I also don't believe in luck in boxing

    (Unless someone is brutally beating a guy and just happens to slip on the wet mat and knock himself out)

    Garcia has rose to every test and passed it, except for Herrera. There is nothing to dislike about him. People will find every excuse in the book to discredit him, he and Canelo are the new Mayweather.
     
  13. Capitan

    Capitan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Reader's Digest version would have sufficed!

    There are a lot if haters on this forum!!!
     
  14. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    I know I'll get **** for this, but luck does exist and Danny is living proof.
    Morales was just worn down far too many wars, Maidana took alot out of him, Danny got him at the right time.
    Khan has a weak chin, but he caught him in the neck which messed up his equilibrium, he was never out on his feet his balance was just off, Danny landed an illegal rabbit runch to the neck the ref didn't see.
    Judah went down but he usually does, Danny thought it would be a good cherry pick but Zab proved he had holes in his game late in the fight, quasi exposing him.

    Matthysse KO's through accumulation of punches, usually mid to late rounds, Danny landed a lucky shot and closed his eye, hard to commit to your primary punch when you can't see out your eye, and your afraid of being countered.
    Also if Danny was so great shouldn't he have dominated Matthysse even more than he did after his eye closed, Lucas still had quite a few moments late in the fight.

    Danny's luck finally ran out, Herrera exposed him, which I fully expected.
     
  15. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    So he got lucky in all of his fights? It wasn't luck, you're making excuses for all of his victories. Herrera's style is just a nightmare for Garcia. Garcia isn't the most skilled, but he's got enough to stay on top for now.

    There's a REASON every fighter loses, it isn't bad luck. You can make excuses for everyone.