Am I outta line with this heavyweight ATG list?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by MRBILL, Mar 17, 2010.


  1. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    George Chuvalo is the Greatest Heavyweight of all time.


    His two losses to Chris Byrd and past prime Lennox Lewis.

    Translates as coming from a lay off to outbox Samuel Peter.

    So you think victories over Gomez, Arreola, and Johnson actually give Vitali a case?

    **** as always.
     
  2. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    first thing wrong is that vitali is in the top 10
    2nd is that he out ranks holyfield??

    Holyfields heavyweight title fights 19
    Vitali title fights 7 (we dont count the WBO GARBAGE BELT sorry, vitali vs obed sullivan is not a heavyweight title fight)
    kirk johnson
    Lewis
    Byrd
    Danny Williams
    Corrie Sanders
    Kingpin Johnson
    Arreola
    JC Gomez

    no point naming the "other guys"

    holyfields notiable opponents (title fights)
    Buster Douglas
    mike tyson
    mike tyson
    george foreman
    larry holmes
    riddick bowe
    riddick bowe
    lennox lewis
    lennox lewis
    Hassim Rahman
    Nicolay Valeuv
    Bert Cooper
    john ruiz
    john ruiz
    john ruiz
    chris byrd

    notable opponents NON TITLE
    Sultan Ibragimov
    Alex Stewart
    Alex Stewart
    Riddick Bowe
    James Toney
    Fres Oquendo
    Ray Mercer
    Pinklon Thomas
    Quick Tillis


    yeah...that warrants a vitali all time 7 ranking...what a freaking joke man
     
  3. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't give a rats ass about popularity or the friggin' resume... I don't........ I do think V.K. would beat the **** outta "Holy and Bowe" in a time machine.......... V.K. knows how to fight and is in GREAT shape for a guy aged 38 yrs for Christ Sakes.............
    :deal:hat

    MR.BILL

    Note:

    Lewis in 2003 at 256 pounds was THE BADDEST dude to ever box in that shape and mental frame this side of George Foreman during his comeback..... Lenny Lewis was past his peak, but he was no friggin' slouch in 2003....... He was a bad-ass mutha........
    :hat
     
  4. Brit Sillynanny

    Brit Sillynanny Cold Hard Truth Full Member

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    Can't recall ever agreeing with your prior posts .. but on the face of it or a quick glance that's a very good list overall.
     
  5. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Marciano has NO chance at beating "Holy, Tyson, Foreman or Frazier" in a time machine......... NONE! Stylewise, Marciano gets murdered.......

    MR.BILL:hat
     
  6. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    Uhh... He actually might beat Tyson. Holyfield beat Tyson because he was outslugging him, and clinching, and manhandling him. Marciano hits harder then holyfield and pressures more. You can make the arguement that this isn't a 100% prime tyson, but I see the familar fate because Marciano has the conditioning of holyfield, the chin, the heart, and he hits harder. holyfield is bigger and taller and faster, but that's it.
    Yeah.. Marciano would get killed by a prime foreman. Not sure about Frazier though.
    keep in mind if this goes by 6 rounds Marciano has all the advantages vs Tyson, and foreman..
     
  7. Marciano

    Marciano AmicoDiNessuno Full Member

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    I Think you Underrated Marciano too much !!! Marciano was a Destroyer in the ring, a Real Warrior with a strong chin and Heart, his Punches was very very hard .You are wrong to Think Marciano have No Chance to Beat The great Boxer belive that !!!
     
  8. brixtonbeat

    brixtonbeat Active Member Full Member

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    "that's it"? :nut
     
  9. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    you have got to be the dumbest mother ****er ever to post on here
    youre a fan boy fairy. you were the type of kid at school who was scared of someone because they were bigger. Vitali isnt even on the same page of an evander holyfield. i just layed it out for you dumbass. youre eyes just cant get off vitalis nuts. 19 world title fights to 7?
    tyson, foreman, bowe, lewis, moorer, holmes, mercer,
    to obed sullivan, corrie sanders, carlo gomez, sam peter, hasim rahman?
    its painful to sit through a boring hugfest, slappy, vitali fight....a guy that big and scared to mix it up. you wont ever see a fight of his on espn classic, i promise.
    get a life man and stop being a nut sucker
     
  10. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    marciano is a guy you cant compare to current guys because of his size. 187 pounds and 5 ft 9.... lets just say he beat everyone from his time...and he fought in a generous time like the klits do now.... look waht the 60s brought...patterson, ali, liston, terrel, chuvalo, wepner, bonevena, frazier
    not knocking marciano, he did what he could with what he had
     
  11. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    Well honestly, how is Holyfield better then Marciano, fighter-wise?
    He only has better hand speed, and he's bigger, and taller.
    I would honestly pick Marciano over him in a fight.
     
  12. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    i would pick holyfield over marciano, but wont bash the rock. i just dont think they would even be in the same league. marciano strugled against an old archie moore who had almost 200 fights...and was even knocked down by him. holyfield was a different animal , watch the dokes fight...
    it was a different time, marciano would have been a great cruiserweight....or light heavy if he was around now
     
  13. essexboy

    essexboy The Cat Full Member

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    My favourite heavyweight, nice one.
     
  14. buddub51

    buddub51 Member Full Member

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    I agree with you :yep
     
  15. Stoic

    Stoic Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Not really, primarily because he won 36 of 38 fights by TKO...also, he had a light weight--by the name of Haye-- scared sh*tless and unwilling to fight him.:deal