Am I the only one who thought Joe Cortez...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by JimboDs, Dec 10, 2007.


  1. JimboDs

    JimboDs So-called expert Full Member

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    It may not have been fixed, but I firmly believe that Cortez was determined not to let it be an inside fight, which put Hatton at a severe disadvantage.
     
  2. Brooklyn Boxer

    Brooklyn Boxer Active Member Full Member

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    It doesn't matter who was going to hold he just wanted the fight not to be a holding contest. Hatton is known to make it a holding contest and he wanted to stop the holding. That doesn't mean Hatton couldn't get inside and fight his fight but Hatton wanted to get inside to hold and hit and Cortez wasn't going to let him do that. I think Cortez had a bad night but he didn't do anything to change the outcome of the fight.
     
  3. JimboDs

    JimboDs So-called expert Full Member

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    Floyd was the one doing the clinching. He didn't want an inside fight either.
     
  4. Brooklyn Boxer

    Brooklyn Boxer Active Member Full Member

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    Hatton still could fight inside without holding but he doesn't do it. The way Hatton fights inside is holding the fighter and Cortez was not gonna let him hold the whole night.
     
  5. JimboDs

    JimboDs So-called expert Full Member

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    I didn't say he necessarily changed the outcome. He was horribly inconsistent and broke them prematurely on many occasions. Some people seem to disagree with that though. I don't see how, but I'm not going to spend too much energy trying to figure it out.

    In-fighting is a part of boxing. It's not just about the clean punching people want to see in Rocky movies. It might be more entertaining to the casual fan, but if you take that tool off the table in a fight, you can severely disadvantage one fighter depending on styles.
     
  6. Ramshall1

    Ramshall1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cortez was posing for Pics with Floyd after the fight. After that horrible job he did he should have been pelted with full cans of Guiness.
     
  7. JimboDs

    JimboDs So-called expert Full Member

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    I didn't see Hatton warned for holding and hitting once, though I've seen fighters warned for it in other fights.

    I plan to watch the fight again, but the first time around I recall seeing Floyd doing a lot more holding on the inside.
     
  8. Slothrop

    Slothrop Boxing Junkie banned

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    It's not so much that Cortez got on Hatton, it's that Floyd was doing more than his fair share of dirty **** that Cortez just let slide.
     
  9. Mindspring

    Mindspring Active Member Full Member

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    He was a Floyd butt boy.
     
  10. wansen

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    I don't think the outcome would have been any different however, he (Cortez) was worse than terrible....he must have screamed "STOP!" 50 times or more. As if he expected the fighters to be robots and "STOP!" instantly on his screaming command. He's always been over-officious to say the least, and at times almost hostile. He was screaming at Hatton within the first 10 seconds and I can't count how many times he found it necessary to break the fighters within 2 seconds of them getting 'tied up'. Why not do what most other (good) refs do and give them a chance to "fight or get out of there".

    IMO, he tainted the fight with his constant screaming of "STOP!" and severely
    and negatively impacted the flow. He acted as though it was the "Joe Cortez referee show" instead of a world-class bout.
     
  11. Brooklyn Boxer

    Brooklyn Boxer Active Member Full Member

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    I agree Cortez should have warn PBF more but Holding and hitting is not a style and thats what Hatton does in most fights. Hatton could still fight inside without holding. I think Cortez just took away the holding part of the fight.
     
  12. Symphenyceo

    Symphenyceo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :patsch childish...just sad
     
  13. BOSTONREDSOX

    BOSTONREDSOX The Ghost Full Member

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    :yep
     
  14. rodney

    rodney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ridky Hatton is one of the dirtiest fighter in the sport.
    Floyd showed that he could mix it in close and give Ricky some of his own stuff back.
    If Floyd didnt have his forearm up, he would have surely been headbutted all nite long.
    Bottom line, its a boxing match --- not wrestling or the octigon.
    Joe Cortez did a great job in trying to keep it a boxing match and maintain some sort of control to avoid a foulfest and possibly a disqualification.
    Ricky Hatton lost.
    No one told Ricky to lead with his face.
     
  15. BOSTONREDSOX

    BOSTONREDSOX The Ghost Full Member

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    give me a ****in break :patsch