Am I the only one....

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by ElTrigueno, May 28, 2011.


  1. RedDragonBoxing

    RedDragonBoxing Ametuer Boxer Full Member

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    Heavyweights arent exciting anymore (especially to the american viewers) because your heavyweights are fat, bloated and lack the speed and technical skill to be competitive. i mean come on, look at "Fa(s)t" Eddie Chambers. Kevin "Kingping" Johnson, Chris Arreola. their the best you have and all of them got whooped by the Klitshcko's

    Britains answer to the heavyweight seen is Harrison, Fury, Chisora and Price.
    Tbh Audley knocking out Sprott is the worst thing to happen to the heavyweight scene cos then we could at least have seen Sprott-Haye which would have been at least a little more exciting than the 3 punch fight we got spoon fed by sky.

    Furys name brings more excitement than he does but he did improve after the controversial fight with Mcdermott whose proven to be a Great domestic level fighter and now the Chisora fight will answer the question if britain has any chance of reviving the Heavyweight division and price is too inactive

    Also the champions are to blame :

    Wladimirs Jab, Paw, Grab isnt exactly exciting compared to Ali/Tyson style of fighting

    David Haye has the skills to be exciting but the quality of competition isnt up to standard

    Vitali is getting on in age and his competition is the best out of anyones but still its mostly Fat guys

    All being said in the next 5-10 years the heavyweight division should improve with the likes of Robert Helenius. We get more Heavies like him along with maybe Huck, Adamek and a few other good names from the cruiser division then maybe it will get better but its just a guess for the time being
     
  2. praetorianJJ

    praetorianJJ Conqueror of Worlds Full Member

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    ali did quite a bit of holding....against frazier anyway. tyson didn't. bowe didn't. holyfield sure as hell did. punch, punch, hold, wait on the ref, punch, punch, hold, repeat...
     
  3. Bubby

    Bubby Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Probaby they never got over the bigger boys taking their milk money at school.:lol:
     
  4. RedDragonBoxing

    RedDragonBoxing Ametuer Boxer Full Member

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    Ali made up with it in other fights though and Holyfield has always been over rated to me. he beat up on an old Foreman who proved he had more power than him when he sparked Moorer (Jammiest punch in boxing!) Headbutted a damaged Tyson, Robbed Lewis of a win in the first fight and continues to delude himself thinking he can still win a world title.

    Dont get me wrong im not against American boxers, Ali is an all time great, Tysons style of fighting was purely methodic, Floyds defense is a masterpiece and the likes of Jones, Hopkins, Mclellan, Whitaker etc are why i love the sport but Holyfield is grossly over rated
     
  5. Nosbor

    Nosbor Boxing Addict banned

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    These heavyweight ***** threads are always the same crap, over and over. However I must say the poster above us who claimed the division will get better with Marco Huck was a new one. :patsch
     
  6. praetorianJJ

    praetorianJJ Conqueror of Worlds Full Member

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    i won't argue with what he's accomplished. but his style above cruiserweight was never fun to watch for me. and i always felt he got a pass for the headbutts.... judah and golota are the only people i've seen with more visibly deliberate butts than holyfield and i can not once recall holyfield being penalized for it. am i wrong?
     
  7. RedDragonBoxing

    RedDragonBoxing Ametuer Boxer Full Member

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    Not saying Huck would be a great heavyweight but compared to the fat blobs were accustomed to seeing which ones would you prefer
     
  8. Royal-T-Bag

    Royal-T-Bag Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Holyfield isn't on those guys level with regards to skill but what makes him just as great and greater than some of those mentioned is his will to win and heart of a champ. One of, if not THE biggest warrior of all time....He beat fighters he had no business beating cause he was a beast and was willing to die in the ring doing whatever it took to get the W. His intagible heart is what makes him great. He beat a prime Bowe who would be trouble for anyone ever. Holyfield has more balls than anyone. :deal
     
  9. Bubby

    Bubby Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yea, we get one thread like this every day and some times two on Sunday. And Huck is a new one for me too.:?
     
  10. kopejh

    kopejh Guest

    maybe people just appreciate the skill level at the lower weights? you might be the one with the complex here.

    have you ever seen a fight this technical between two heavyweights?

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf5nW_TXQKs&feature=channel_video_title[/ame]

    no because it never happened.
     
  11. Squire

    Squire Let's Go Champ Full Member

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    I love the heavyweights. We've got Wlad-Haye coming up in one month, Vitali-Adamek not too long after- there aren't many divisions in boxing which have four top 4 fighters signed to fight each other at the moment. Chambers-Thompson is a good fight on paper to find out who the best US heavyweight is. **** knows what Povetkin is doing, but I'm sure I heard Povetkin-Chagaev could happen as a WBA eliminator. That's the 5th and 6th best heavyweights with a possibility of fighting. Helenius is fighting his way into the picture with brutal stoppage wins. Fury-Chisora is an decent domestic fight. Arreola is getting into much better shape and fighting very regularly

    To hell with the critics. It's a good division :bbb
     
  12. Jaaames

    Jaaames Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Cruiserweight division is more exciting to me... but...

    Both Tony Thompson and Mo Harris were ranked in the IBF.... i was suppose to be a tourney between Eddie Chambers, Dimitrenko, Mormeck and I think Rossy... We'll see how this division pans out by the end of the year...

    Franklin Lawrence is a sleeper thats on a roll

    Grandfather Thompson finds ways to win and knock people out

    Stiverne looks like a promising beast... He fights Ray Austin next...

    We'll see how Solis heels up

    Seth Mitchell, see how he does...

    Malik Scott, been dealing with injuries for a while, hopefully the bicep is good to go...

    Travis Walker is trying to make a comeback in his career...

    Helenius.... could be fighting for a world title by early next year...

    Mike Perez from Prizefighter, see if he can make a splash

    Tyson Fury and David Price

    Next year will be the year of the Heavyweight
     
  13. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    Nah I'll always love boxing. Gotta back it up through the good times and the bad. I didn't even do that with my ex boxing is the ****. Even though it may seem **** at times, it's still the ****.
     
  14. Bubby

    Bubby Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Right on:good
    Find another weight division with fights like that coming up.
    People who hate todays heavyweights hate them for reason other than what they say....
     
  15. Smokin' Joe

    Smokin' Joe ~ Dinamita Irlandés ~ banned

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    I agree. I tend not to watch anything above super middleweight often. Of course, every so often something special comes along that's worth watching, like Roy at Light Heavyweight. I'll probably watch Wlad and Haye too out of morbid curiousity.. But yeah, heavyweight boxing in general is painful to watch these days.