Am I training right?

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by GrizzlyBearEric, Jan 22, 2017.


  1. GrizzlyBearEric

    GrizzlyBearEric New Member Full Member

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    Hello everyone names Eric,i'm new to everything to do with boxing,new to this forum and this is my first thread here and it will be a lengthy read so please bare with me, any help would be amazing so thank you in advance,for a bit of insight on myself, I just turned 21, i'm 6'5 and 280 lbs, I do landscaping monday-friday from 6:30 AM til 3 PM, and then i try to train for boxing, both to lose weight and to get involved in the sport,this is my current boxing workout,
    Monday:20 minute warmup jog,agility ladder 4 passes 4-6 rounds in in out outs,4 passes 2 rounds lateral shuffle
    4 three minute rounds of shadow boxing, 4 three eminute rounds of heavy bag,

    Tuesday & thursday: Strength and conditioning:

    Tuesday week 1: Romanian Deadlifts 3x3 push press 3x3,full snatch 3x3, 4 three minute rounds resistance shadow boxing,finish with neck,grip(weight plate pinches and farmers walks and deadlift holds) and abdominal work.

    Wednesday:4 sets of 600 meter runs,agility ladder 4 passes 4 rounds in in out outs, 4 passes 2 rounds lateral shuffles,3 rounds of 5 passes through agility cone drills,4 three minute rounds of shadow boxing, 4 three minute rounds heavy bag, 4 sets of 20 ski jumpsm 4 sets of 10 jump squats.

    thursday week 1:sumo deadlift 3x3,back squats 3x5,barbell row 3x3, seated cable row 3x3, 4 three minute rounds resistance shadow boxing,finish with neck,grip(weight plate pinches and farmers walks and deadlift holds) and abdominal work.

    Friday:4 sets of 50 yard sprints,agility ladder 4 passes 4 rounds in in out outs, 4 passes 2 rounds lateral shuffles,3 rounds of 5 passes through agility cone drills,4 three minute rounds of shadow boxing, 4 three minute rounds heavy bag, 4 sets of 20 ski jumps 4 sets of 10 jump squats, 4 rounds of wind sprints and 4 rounds of 600 meter dashes.

    Saturday: light jog
    sunday: rest

    Monday,wednesday and friday same training as previous week

    Tuesday week 2: mid thigh clean pull 5x2, push press 5x2, box jumps 4x4,single leg deadlift 2x5 4 three minute rounds resistance shadow boxing,finish with neck,grip(weight plate pinches and farmers walks and deadlift holds) and abdominal work.

    Thursday week 2: Sumo deadlifts 4x6, plyo pushups 5x2,power clean 4x6,shoulder shrugs 2x5,heavy one arm dumbbell press. 4 three minute rounds resistance shadow boxing, finish with neck,grip(weight plate pinches and farmers walks and deadlift holds) and abdominal work.

    saturday:light jog
    sunday: rest

    monday,wednesday and friday, same training as previous week

    tuesday week 3: :Romanian Deadlifts 6x1 push press 6x1,full snatch 4x6, 4 three minute rounds resistance shadow boxing,finish with neck,grip(weight plate pinches and farmers walks and deadlift holds) and abdominal work.

    Thursday week 3: sumo deadlifts 4x6,back squats 4x6,barbell row 4x6, seated cable row 4x6, 4 three minute rounds resistance shadow boxing,finish with neck,grip(weight plate pinches and farmers walks and deadlift holds) and abdominal work.

    Tuesday and thursday week 4: repeat week 2 but deload at 50%

    repeat weeks 1-4

    Is this too much? is it not enough? is my training concept right? I don't have access to a boxing gym,coach or sparring partner, I workout at home in my garage and put together a boxing workout through some of the research that i have done.
     
  2. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Simple answer stop the schedule ...do legs once a week and go by body feel...other words..work whats not hurting and keep a log on strong days...always go by feel to what you SHOULD be working..any trainer that tells you other ..well,...they are idiots. some muscles take a longer healing period,io need hands on to give reputable advice!
     
  3. GrizzlyBearEric

    GrizzlyBearEric New Member Full Member

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    yeah i've been lifting weights for about 2 years total,i've worked up to a 410 deadlift and 325 squat so far,and i've done research on it,because im looking to be a strength and conditioning coach,so i'm aware of how all that works, but everything i've read is saying to train boxing at least 3 times a week and only do weight training maybe twice a week for no longer than 30 to 45 minutes.
     
  4. GrizzlyBearEric

    GrizzlyBearEric New Member Full Member

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    so just work to what feels right? don't follow any particular training regime?
     
  5. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Well i would be afool like most to give you a schedule...you CANT give a guy a schedule if you are not working with him.....ppl train different,some muscles heal quicker /some dont...i always went on body feel ...this is important b/c you wont over train...theres a fine line between training hard and training dumb....

    again only you know this...the trainers job is to get MAXIMUM performance not a decline..its a FINE science so i cant tell you what to do...I CAN tell you go by body feel..ive been training for 3 decades and know what to train and when ...this will go far for you. Its not a race but procedure of getting better.
     
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  6. GrizzlyBearEric

    GrizzlyBearEric New Member Full Member

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    fair point, thank you very much for your time,i'll take this into consideration when training!
     
  7. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Ignore stupidity and make smart choices ..obvioulsly i know more bc ive been training since as CRAZY as 1987 but i know my stuff/////always go by body feel if your fighting or wanting to get into that area.

    P.S read the past post i posted to show you noobs and real guys who actually fought! The kid Dago dope never been punched in the face or stepped foot in a gym so be careful ,,he READS AND POST ARTICLES ON THE SUBJECT AND pretends ITS HIS EXPERIANCE..... I WOULD LOVE TO CLEAN HIS CLOCK BUT HE DECLINED!

    I have actual vids of me in this section ,he deleted his for good reason!
     
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  8. baconmaker

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    You don't need to lift weights that much. Calisthenics do the work basic situps, pushups, pullups, squats, medicine ball workouts, etc. One weightlifting / powerlifting session a week is enough.

    My basic calistechnic workout I like to do: Just sit on the floor and do 20 minutes as much as situps, pushups, squats and pullups as possible.
     
  9. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sorry but this makes no sense.

    If someone is going to be lifting weights it has to be for a specific reason, lifting weights for the sake of it is pointless. You should be able to justify every rep you do of any exercise otherwise most likely you shouldn't be doing it.

    If there's a specific reason i.e. strengthening the hips, you train regardless of your legs feeling a bit tired.
     
  10. reznick

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    I think what he's saying is to focus on areas where you feel a lack of strength, versus superfluously building every muscle in your body using some routine.

    I think for certain people this works.
    Personally that's what I lean towards to as well. But there are times when someone shows my an exercise that builds my muscles a certain way I had no idea about.

    I think the key is to balance yourself to be open to new routines while also curating to what works for you.
     
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  11. Caimán

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    In my opinion schedules like that kills the joy of boxing. I mean some people start boxing to learn something new every day, break the routine and improve different aspects of your game in different ways working with different people and enjoy doing it.

    Is it too much work? I don't know, to me it sounds kind of hard to your body, but mostly boring and stiff.

    My ideal for a beginner is to improve the basis of boxing to the point where you can improve your body by increasing the intensity and quantity of some drills (pads, shadow or heavy bag), also increasing the technical difficult to load your arsenal.
     
  12. Giacomino

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    Lads, do you ever think that the people asking questions on here aren't interested in listening to the veteran posters clogging up the threads with personal insults?

    For me, I''m starting out and interested in getting whatever advice I can. I appreciate it and respect the guy giving it. Anything else is just a waste of time.
     
  13. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The way I read his post was pretty much only train legs and only when you feel 100%, which is poor advice.

    OP, if you're just getting into the sport it's as simple as drop all this BS for now and learn how to box. You need your body to be 100% while training at first, particularly when learning new movement patterns. Worry about weight training later, if at all.

    The only reason you add training methods (particularly weight training) is to fix a weakness, otherwise what's the point? Training consists of finding a weakness and adding a training method to fix that weakness. Simple as.

    As you've only just started you don't know your weaknesses which makes this routine of randomly thrown together exercises a waste of time and effort.
     
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  14. reznick

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    True
     
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  15. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    'The only reason you add training methods (particularly weight training) is to fix a weakness, otherwise what's the point?"

    This is actually terrible advise of the quote above.. why bother training if your not going to actually improve while you are training? what i said cant be argued because you dont over work muscles that arent or shouldnt be worked if they hurt a certain day. In other words you dont work out to fix a weakeness ,you work out to make the body stronger and better balanced. working out will make it harder to have any weaknesses. it should be a part of any serious athletes training program ,not because you need to help fix something.

    "Training consists of finding a weakness and adding a training method to fix that weakness. Simple as. '


    This is solid advice above so i dont know where the first quote came from?

    You dont work out legs more than once a week specially if you are also boxing this shouldnt be that difficult to under line and do. Strength training will improve ones performance at any sport,a and you get physically better doing so, weight training has no effect on boxing if one takes my advise what i posted. you guys act , like hes going to be ready for olymopic weight lifting team if he starts lifting....sorry it dont work like that. Minor or major work outs ,beginner or advanced training will only advance ability more quicker not slow him down...thems the facts.
     
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