Most trainers are not up to date and take hearsay of old methods and run with it...for instance Foreman said in his comeback said he waited for everyone to leave the gym and lift bc he said it made him a harder puncher though it was against normal thinking bc it was bad for boxing( b/c he had the ability already to punch so stronger arms in a bigger body transitioned well) i had a convo with him and convinced him he hit harder than shavers when he was heavier and stronger he said he was stronger in the 90's in other interviews and credits weight lifting as a major factor.
Of the hundreds of boxing coaches and trainers I personally know. None use weights as part of their training routine. Sticking to and talking about boxing is exactly what I am doing. Some keyboard warriors think using personal insults makes their opinions more solid and valid. When in actuality the opposite is true.
Good. You don't know how which is fair enough. No. You're giving the blanket statement of weight lifting is bad for an athlete, which is incorrect. You're not talking about boxing, you're talking about improving the performance of an athlete, two completely different things. Saying you have no knowledge and are ignorant in a particular subject is not really an insult. What I have said is factual. You have done NOTHING to support what you've said other than you've been a boxing coach for 30 years which means absolutely jack **** to this conversation. You have also failed to respond to anything I have said apart from giving blanket statements about what you believe.
Again you are wrong. I never said lifting weights was not beneficial to some athletes. Of course I am addressing the lack of benefite to a boxer. This is a boxing sight, a boxing training thread, and I am a boxing trainer.
Boxers aren't special, they're still athletes at the end of the day. Any athlete can benefit from weight lifting. Why this is so incredibly difficult for you to accept I don't know. Congrats.
Then you truely are cluess. That article is so full of bull**** I wouldn't know where to begin in tearing it apart. The fact the author instantly goes to building muscle and bodybuilding is an instant giveaway that the guy knows **** all about strength and conditioning. After reading the article fully, it's hilarious. Don't lift weights but do Crossfit! Crossfit involves a whole lot of weight lifting. Lol. What a ******. Also, a single comment disagrees with the article so the comments are disabled. Lol.
1000% agree. Boxing is almost still in the age in football when coaches thought lifting weights makes you slow for football. Even in football though they are still behind, you have guys running miles that makes them slower when the actual sport is running 50 sprints. The biggest thing with weights IMO is you just need to understand the difference between strength-speed/speed-strength and absolute strength. Usually when we say "strength" we mean absolute strength but for most sports besides wrestling we really care about strength-speed/speed-strength. It is not what your max effort squat number PR that matters but how much weight you can move at a bar velocity of .5-1 meters/second. Then test your speed-strength with box jumps. If your squat goes up but your box jump stays the same you are not getting more explosive, only gaining absolute strength. I would also say if you look up how guys lift for the shotput you can get some good ideas as they both have similar goals of maximum wattage put out through your body to your hand.
Lifting weights to do anything more than toning muscle is detrimental to a boxers ability to move and punch.
I hope you dont have actual talent you train because thats absolute dribble ! Trainers like you are many unfortunatly,hopefull the fighters are smart enough themselves and seek other trainers besides you ,that which you dont know what they are talking about! No offense!
It's sad that you throw this out with literally no idea what you're talking about. Educate yourself. Maybe when you understand how to utilize weights in an athlete's regime you'll see the benefits. I have a feeling, though, that you'll ignore this, won't look up anything because, well, you're too ignorant. With that said, I'm done with you.
You are only cheating yourself and more importantly a chance for the fighter to get better themselves...its not exactly about " OUR " its about improving the fighter. It doesnt really matter with time successful fighters move on and go to better preperation with better competition,they will see you are limited when they venture else where.