apart from injuries your talking **** which fights are these and what was opposition like your an amusing guy man what do those early gouys compare to lacy kessler bika bernard and shot roy this is the best part of joe's history for a reason you bringing his old opposition up, is the whole reason joe get so many critics after each win and then his fans cry about it, look joe has achieved the bulk of his greatness at the end of his career he is not shot for ****
there is a reason nobodey cared about him for so long when he was fighting european level fighters barry mcguigan who is a real fan of joe c for his whole career, aswel as being a respected fighter said himslef it fustrates him to of watched joe take so long to arrive onto the world stage where he has stepped his game up even higher
Jones has already been beating three times in the last few years, 2 times devastatingly. Calzaghe is still close to his prime, while Jones is nowhere close to the peak of his abilities.
People keep saying they are both old n not too far off each other in age to justify the fight. But truth is sportsmen and women peak at different ages and Joe is closer to his prime than Roy is. Roy was sooo much further away from his prime. Roys prime was when he was around 27-29(10-12 years ago) and Calzaghe when he was 31,32 (4,5 years ago) Even if Roy fought Joe in his prime, after he had beaten Clinton Woods,Roy still would have won just and i feel by a close split decision(being 6yrs past it). The fight proved Prime Roy> Prime Joe Roy knocked Joe down at 39 and was way past his prime. I'm not saying that if they had met in their prime Roy would have absolutely demolished Joe. Joe in his prime used to be more powerful in his shots. A bit faster in hands and footwork. But still a great tactician with superb relexes, footwork and audacity. Roy was barely 20% of his proper self. His legs used to much more stronger and dynamic. And stronger, quicker legs mean better footwork and much more powerful shots. Roys stamina was 10x better and he would have thrown 10x as many punches and also the very quick single potshots and flurries when needed with no detrimental effects on his stamina. Roy was faster in a single punch than Joe yesterday and in their primes he would have been faster not only in the potshots but he definitely could have gave Joe those flurries back at the same speed but with more power. If the they met in their primes: I believe with his quickness of foot he would have been able to close in on Joe land a combo like yesterday but with even more power- somewhere in the first 3 rounds. Joe would have went down, BUT got up! Joe would have been more dazed than he was yesterday and Roy would have tried to finish it off maybe.(Roy doesnt always finish of his opponents though as we all know- Roy knows that fighters can be at their most dangerous when they are hurt). If he did Joe would have returned with quick powerful flurries and caught Roy with a great shot or 2. Roy wouldnt have been cut/ gone down as he had better resistance in his prime and because of his reflexes would have rolled with the shots and weakened them. ( Cuts wouldn't have been an issue like yesterday. Even if Roy wasn't cut Joe most probably would have won still but not by as many rounds as he did last nite.) Then i think Roy would have decided to try and out box Joe for the majority of the fight. This is when Joe would have turned up the pace and force Roy to the ropes and flurry like hell. But i think Roy would have weathered the storm and also returned with his own quick n powerful flurries. By doing so Joe would have backed off and in terms of scoring would have been more or less equal. Than Roy would have took it to the centre of the ring and outboxed Joe slightly with each feinting constantly and slipping and weaving each others shots bit Jones winning on cleaner, more powerful counterpunches( primarily lead right hands and left hooks to the body and a few lead uppercuts). They both would have landed on each other, but Roy would be ahead on the score cards because of the extra power effectiveness. This would have continued to Roy winning a UD with Joe winning at least 4 rounds, give or take. Or another route this fight could have been by Roy beating Joe be a TKO in one of the last 3 rounds. Joe would have felt the urge to up the pressure and win and by doing so become slightly careless. By this time Jones' stamina would have most certainly held up and Roy would have knocked Joe down. Joe would have got up and Roy would have gone for the kill landing some hard shots with Joe off his feet than the ref would have stepped in. They would then go on to have a rematch for another close and worthy fight with the result going one way or the other.
[platnump] whats 1000-0 got to do with england and calzaghe? you do realise calzaghe aint english right?