Am I wrong to not drink the Usyk Kool-Aid?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Oakland Billy Smith, Aug 5, 2019.


  1. pistal47

    pistal47 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agree to disagree bud. You're a good dude and I enjoy debating with you. Have a good day man.
     
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  2. Oakland Billy Smith

    Oakland Billy Smith Active Member banned Full Member

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    Um....didnt David Haye and Thomas Adamak clean out their CW divisions as well?
     
  3. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Usyk's division is much better than Hayes or Adamek
     
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  4. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    what exactly is it that youre hoping to hear? whatever it is i see, im sure youve seen many more times, as youve no doubt seen much more of usyk than i have, yet youve come to a different conclusion, so obviously we interpret data differently. so basically it would be my analytical skills against yours, and no way to tell whos right until hes done. but theres plenty of evidence of our individual ability to analyse in our post history. if you are good, then youre going to be right about most fights, going back as long as your post history. now if we start comparing how we have been analysing fights for years, then comparing how right, or how wrong we were, we can start to see who is more likely to be correct right this minute.
    see, sugar 88 likes to pretend he knows as much as anybody, but like most of these clueless mongs, hes too chicken**** to actually find out how little he knows in comparison. thats why i offered to leave this place if he can show me how much more often he is correct in his previous analysis of fighters, because i know he just talks out his ass all the time, controlled by his insecurity. if he actually thought he knew better, he would prove it. instead hes just gonna talk about it without actually jumping in.
    lets take what you just asked of me and what you offered up in comparison. gassiev has great patience under fire? briedis is versatile? what does that even mean in the context of the detail you expect to hear from me?
    wtf do you mean usual tactic? when have you seen me argue like that? i would tell you the truth about you, if i knew who you were or could remember one of your posts, but im not going to pretend i know you, like youre doing. i suspect your insecurity over usyk possibly not being who you want him to be, is prompting you to stick your nose where it dont belong, and talking out your ass.
     
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  5. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Chisora was handled with ease by Vitali Klitschko, Fury x2, Pulev, Kayabel and completely separated from his senses by Haye in 5. Yet he had two very, very closely run fights with Whyte the first of which you can make an argument Del Boy should of got the nod in.

    The fact is that Chisora has been dealt pretty comprehensively by anyone who fancies themselves a future world champion with the exception of Whyte.
     
  6. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Just to prove you have an agenda:

    You say: "completely separated from his senses by Haye in 5"

    When Dillian is the one who TRULY seperated Chisora from his senses. KO VS TKO GO LEARN THE DIFFERENCE

    So Whyte does it better than Haye, and you still knock Whyte, SURE BUDDY KEEP HATING.


    And Chisora was handled by Fury on the second, on the first he was giving Fury trouble spots, and handled by easy by Kabayel???? Not even going to comment on that one.

    Go back to school and learn the difference between "close fight" and "dominated", clearly you had a bad teacher.

    Want to talk about HANDLED WITH EASE??? HOW ABOUT CHISORA 2 ROUNDS AGAINST SPILKA AND WILDER TOOK HOW MANY????

    KNOCKED OUT TAKAM IN HOW MANY? VS ANTHONY JOSHUA?

    You are an Agenda driven poster.
     
  7. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Boxing fans, please explain to @Sugar 88 the difference between TKO and KO, I'd love to hear everyone's explanation.
     
  8. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    When you fight someone is very important. Haye beat a better Chisora brutally. Whyte arguably lost a razor close fight to an older version of him the first time round was then behind on the cards before pulling out a nice KO shot himself the second time round.

    Kabayel was never in danger of losing his fight against Del. Neither was Pulev, Fury or Vitali. Helenius was the beneficiary of a terrible robbery.

    I'm always amused at fan boys claiming I have an agenda against their favourite fighter - you think I hate Whyte, Paranoid thinks I hate Pac, Blizzy said I hate Floyd, Isal and Shadow say I hate Canelo - which tbf I kinda do as he does a lot to **** me off as a fan so I'll give them that although I think I have just cause - and a host of others have said I hate loads of other fighters simply because I refuse to hug their nuts.
     
  9. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Fully agree, haven't been here as long as you, but I noticed this as well.
     
  10. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Who beat the better version of Chisora? Haye or Whyte? Who had the easier time beating him?

    You're one stupid answer away from going on ignore.
     
  11. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    You do have an agenda because you hype up the performance of Haye vs Chisora, and never gave a shred of credit to Whyte's performance or Whyte's spectacular knockout... why? BECAUSE you can't bring yourself to do it!

    Not once, have I ever seen you say, good knockout by Whyte over Chisora.

    Hence you have an agenda, proven by the above, and reaffirmed by your continued, misplaced, downplay of Chisora as a fighter. Sweeping ALL MY references to the Spilka, Takam fights under the carpet because you can't handle it BECAUSE....as we said... AGENDA driven.

    Me??? I have NO PROBLEM giving credit where credit is due, and I've been thanked for that by every tom dick and harry on this forum even by those who hate my guts.

    I am a bigger man than you that's why.

    Just name me everyone you think Whyte loses to, so I can roast you later... I know you got your predictions on Whyte wrong in the past, because you are clueless acting like you actually know a lot about boxing.
     
  12. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Better version according to who exactly? You???
     
  13. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    @Sugar 88

    You can hate on Whyte all you want, and Chisora, and spend more time bashing them, then giving them credit.... but at least we know how low you are as a poster.
     
  14. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    I think Whyte loses to Fury badly. Probably loses a brutal shoot out to Wilder. Would of said Joshua and Ruiz but need to see what state they're in following Joshua Ruiz 2. Uysk comfortable UD. That's it for now.

    I'm sure more names will rise through the ranks in the next year or two. The way you're going though you'll need to PM me as you're on the verge of going on ignore.

    I also think it's funny that you think I care enough about Dillian Whyte and his career to have an agenda against him. LOL.
     
  15. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    And there you go - one last stupid comment to seal your place on the ignore express! Congrats you're keeping some really, really illustrious company!

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