Am I Wrong To Rank Tyson Higher Than Holmes?

I don’t have that issue but these ratings are a year before Tubbs fought Tyson. Thomas, biggs and Tucker would all have dropped out of the ratings because they was inactive until 88-89, bonecrusher lost his place to aldison Rodriguez who beat him. witherspoon was active beating well thought of mark Williams, truth Williams won the USBA title by Knocking out unbeaten Bert cooper, berbick stayed winning against opponents no worse than what Tubbs was fighting and so was comeback dokes until he registered a better win over james Pritchard that would have trumped both. Orlin Norris and damiani bumped into the ratings for winning and defending the NABF and European titles against better fighters than Tubbs was beating. So I would say by may 1988' the ratings would not include berbick or Tubbs because rodriguez,witherspoon,truth williams, norris and damini were all registering better wins. If Tubbs was at #5 in may 87' then here is the proof at least five other heavyweights (and possibly Dokes) ecliping Tony tubbs 87' wins against Eddie Gonzales and co.

 

So we should use the Ring ratings a year after Tubbs fought Tyson to properly rank him as a Tyson opponent. :nut

 

No we should assume that since Tubbs was #5 in may 1987 and at least five other heavyweights recorded better wins than him after that point up to his title shot that he was bumped out of the ratings entirely by march 1988.

unless you can name a rated heavyweight contender who did not record beter wins than Tubbs during 87-88?

 

Remember this Azzer"born in"85 is the guy who says Holyfeild is the most overrated fighter..:yep

 

Yeah all the guys you stated should have faced Tyson. Ruddock, Holyfield and Witherspoon. Throw Bruno in the mix too.

Tubbs was coming off of wins over James Smith and Greg Page and a controversial loss to Witherspoon. He was more than qualified to fight for the title given Witherspoons fued with King and his recent one round loss to Smith where he lost his title.

 

:rofl

 

you know tubbs was coming off wins over mike jameson, wimpy halstead and eddie "I havnt fought in 3 years" gonzales.

 

:**** choklab

 

Tyson is seriously becoming underated Well said left hook earlier in this thread the rings ratings mean jack **** how many people in their right minds could fancy spinks to beat him tyson was younger faster and hit 10 times harder yet the ring went the other way they always had an agenda with micheal gerrad tyson and still do to this day .

 

how noble! what a gent.atsch

 

Tyson was a great fighter. He totally cleaned out and did all he could. I do not underrate him at all. I would say he was well on his way to being a lock on being a top3 ATG at one time. With hindsight however, just like any great champion, The majority of Tyson’s most spectacular wins for title were against fighters who were not there to win and had not beat a rated fighter for some time. It does not overshadow worthy wins over Tucker, Berbick, smith or even the spinks blow out in anyway. I am simply acknowledging it. Theres a few huggers out there who dont like it -or even one guy with a few names?

 

Nothing really WRONG with that. Both are consensually all time greats. Personally,I think that Holmes is higher on an all time great list. Mainly because I believe that a prime Easton Assassin would have beaten Tyson. Both fully dominated their eras though.