Amataur Boxers & MMA

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by colinthfc, Mar 29, 2009.


  1. colinthfc

    colinthfc Guest

    Can an amataur boxer compete on the MMA circuit and still keep his amataur status under the queensbury rules?
     
  2. doug.ie

    doug.ie 'Classic Boxing Society' Full Member

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    i'd say yes...in the same way as he could play football and still be an amatuer boxer.
    mma has nothing to do with boxing, completely different sport.
     
  3. colinthfc

    colinthfc Guest

    I had a argument in the pub with a mate on the basis that if 1 of the Olympians stayed amataur and waited for London 2012. Could they join UFC to pay the rent?

    If it were possible that athlete would become really high profile. An ambassador for MMA, plus a double olympian
     
  4. Kolya

    Kolya Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No, not if you're being paid. If it's amateur MMA then yes; but in the US you have to have your MMA record listed in your passbook.
     
  5. colinthfc

    colinthfc Guest

    Is this an Olympic rule or USA only?
     
  6. evil G

    evil G this_is_box Full Member

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    Wikipedia on Olympic Games:

    The exclusion of professionals caused several controversies throughout the history of the modern Olympics. The 1912 Olympic pentathlon and decathlon champion Jim Thorpe was stripped of his medals when it was discovered that he had played semi-professional baseball before the Olympics. He was restored as champion on compassionate grounds by the IOC in 1983.[105] Swiss and Austrian skiers boycotted the 1936 Winter Olympics in support of their skiing teachers, who were not allowed to compete because they earned money with their sport and were thus considered professionals.[106]
    As class structure evolved through the 20th century, the definition of the amateur athlete as an aristocratic gentleman became outdated.[104] The advent of the state-sponsored "full-time amateur athlete" of the Eastern Bloc countries further eroded the ideology of the pure amateur, as it put the self-financed amateurs of the Western countries at a disadvantage. Nevertheless, the IOC held to the traditional rules regarding amateurism.[107] Beginning in the 1970s, amateurism requirements were gradually phased out of the Olympic Charter. Eventually the decisions on professional participation were left to the IFs. As of 2004, the only sport in which no professionals compete is boxing, although even this requires a definition of amateurism based on fight rules rather than on payment, as some boxers receive cash prizes from their National Olympic Committees. In men's football (soccer), the number of players over 23 years eligible to participate in the Olympic tournament is limited to three per team. This is done in order to maintain a level of amateurism.[108]

    EDIT: Mis-read the quote from Wiki. "based on fight rules rather than on payment"
     
  7. Kolya

    Kolya Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm just speaking on the USA Boxing rule here, that's the way it is in the US.
     
  8. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    I have a friend that fights ametuer MMA at 185 and Aametuer boxing at 178 in California and its legal!
     
  9. o_money

    o_money Boxing Junkie banned

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    Antônio Rogério Nogueira, the Nogueira brother that fights in on Affliction cards, fights as an amatuer boxer as well. He's actually pretty good and won the gold in the Super Heaveywieght division at the Pan American Games in 2007.
     
  10. Kolya

    Kolya Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes, you can do amateur MMA, but when you register with USA Boxing they will want to put your MMA record in your passbook.