For the holidays I've enclosed some amateur records. Since amateur records can vary depending on your source, I'm not claiming 100% accuracy here. (Wins-Losses-Draws) (Olympic Medals) (World Championship Medals) *Indicates controversial losses in Olympic medal fights. Felix Savon (358-17) (Gold x3) (Silver) Teofilo Stevenson (302-22) (Gold x3) Terry Norris (291-4) Laszlo Papp (288-12) (Gold x3) Virgil Hill (250-11) Mike McCallum (240-10) Kennedy McKinney (214-13) Aaron Pryor (204-16) Tommy Morrison (202-20) Pernell Whitaker (201-13) (Gold) John Mugabi (195-5) Leon Spinks (181-9) Michael Nunn (168-6) Sugar Ray Leonard (165-5) (Gold) Virgil Hill (150-11) Danny Romero (127-5) Wilfredo Benitez (123-6) Harry Arroyo (120-15) Nino Benvenuti (119-1) Jose Napoles (113-1) Tim Austin (113-9) Hilmer Kenty (104-32) Mark Breland (110-1) (Gold) Kid Chocolate (100-0) Muhammad Ali (100-5) (Gold) Vinny Pazienza (100-12) Meldrick Taylor (99-4) Michael Carbajal (94-9) Michael Spinks (93-7) (Gold) Tony Zale (87-8 ) Sugar Ray Robinson (84-1) Carlos Monzon (79-7) Hector Camacho (75-4) Maurice Blocker (73-3) Roger Mayweather (64-4) Simon Brown (63-2) Willie Pep (62-3) Yoko Gushiken (62-3) Naseem Hamed (62-5) Ingemar Johansson (61-10) Alexis Arguello (58-2) Wilfredo Gomez (58-2-1) Henry Armstrong (58-4) Marvin Hagler (55-1) Buddy McGirt (54-9) Felix Trinidad (51-6) Joe Louis (50-4) Azumah Nelson (50-2) Michael Moorer (48-16) Ray Mancini (43-7) Ezzard Charles (42-0) Nigel Benn (41-1) Floyd Patterson (40-4) (Gold) Ricardo Lopez (37-1) Benny Lynch (35-2) Carlos Zarate (33-0) Iran Barkley (30-4) Edwin Rosario (30-2) Vito Antuofermo (29-1) Bobby Czyz (24-2) Chiquita Gonzalez (23-0) Jesse James Leija (23-5) Larry Holmes (19-3) Chris Eubank (19-7) Julio Cesar Chavez (14-1) Roberto Duran (13-3) Rocky Marciano (8-4) More recent fighters Vasyl Lomachenko (396-1) ( Gold x2) (Gold x2, Silver) Guillermo Rigondeaux (374-12) (Gold x2) (Gold x2) Gennady Golovkin (345-5) (Silver) (Gold) Ismail Sillakh (302-16) (Silver) Matt Korobov (300-12) (Gold) Adrien Broner (300-19) Volodymyr Sydorenko (290-20) Chris Byrd (275-19) (Silver) Kostya Tszyu (259-11) Sven Ottke (256-47-5) Stevie Johnston (260-13) Shane Mosley (250-16) Lucian Bute (235-15) Odlanier Solís (227-14) (Gold) Vernon Forrest (225-15) Oscar De La Hoya (223-5) (Gold) Andre Dirrell (210-26) (Bronze) Jeff Lacy (209-12) Vassiliy Jirov (207-10) (Gold) Vitali Klitschko (195-15) Sergey Kovalev (193-22) Evander Holyfield (160-14) (Bronze*) Rakhim Chakhkiev (160-20) Juan Carlos Gomez (158-2) Dariusz Michalczewski (139–11–2) Daniel Geale (135-30) Wladimir Klitschko (134-6) (Gold) Alexander Povetkin (125–7) (Gold) (Gold) Joe Calzaghe (121-9) Roy Jones Jr. (121-13) (Silver*) Andre Ward (115-5) (Gold) Zab Judah (110-5) Ivan Calderon (110-20) Erik Morales (108-6) Tomasz Adamek (108-12) Diego Corrales (105-12) Riddick Bowe (104-18 ) Amir Khan (101-9) (Silver) Lennox Lewis (95-9) (Gold) Kazuto Ioka (95-10) Takashi Uchiyama (91-22) Carl Froch (88-8 ) Floyd Mayweather Jr. (84–6) (Bronze*) David Haye (83-7) (Silver) Arthur Abraham (81-3-6) Alfredo Angulo (80-15) James Degale (79-16) (Gold) Ricky Hatton (76-4) Acelino Freitas (74-2) Nonito Donaire (68-8 ) George Groves (66-10) Rosendo Alavarez (66-12) Kassim Ouma (60-3) Manny Pacquiao (60–4) Eddie Chambers (60-20) Marco Antonio Barrera (56-4) Ike Quartey (50-4) William Joppy (48-4) Mike Tyson (48-6) Vivian Harris (45-5) Juan Manuel Marquez (44-2) Mikkel Kessler (44-3) Canelo Alvarez (41-4) Manuel Medina (40-6) Sergio Martinez (39–2) Giovani Segura (38-4) Jorge Arce (37-3) Montell Griffin (36-5) Tomoki Kameda (35-1-1) James Toney (31-2) Tyson Fury (31-4) Antonio Margarito (21-3) Marco Huck (15-0) Jean-Marc Mormeck (13-2) Nikolai Valuev (12-3) Librado Andrade (3-13)
I remember seeing the Librado Andrade amateur statistic during one of his bouts. Talk about a fighter that improved tremendously, and actually picked up a few decent wins during his career. And maybe one of the best chins at the weight ever, before it finally appeared to crack.
All records indicate SRR went 85-0 as an amateur. I have two of his biographies and they both say the same thing.
Great list. A few comments: 1. I’d like to know how life turned out for the guy who beat Finito (37-1) in the amateurs. Lopez is a peerless technician whose fights could serve as instructional boxing videos. 2. Now I know why Zarate (33-0) never fully recovered after the Gomez fight. 3. I’m surprised to see Eddie Chambers (60-20) post a relatively average record. I realize he’s not a big puncher, but his hand speed is good and he’s quite elusive. Plus the Klitschkos thought highly enough of him to use him as a sparring partner for multiple camps.
Welcome to the board J Jones. Amateur records can be tricky to interpret. Age and experience can explain a lot of early losses, especially in the upper weights. I'm not sure when Chambers lost 20, but my guess would be early in his career. Other times there are BS decisions. As a Lopez fan, I'll see if I can find out more about the guy who beat him.
Thanks for the welcome Mendoza. I’m glad I found this forum to interact with knowledgeable fans like yourself. As a smaller HWT, who turned pro at 18, I assume Chambers fought the majority of his amateur fights below HWT. Given his slick style and fluid skills, you’d think he’d be a problem for opponents at the lighter weights. Especially since his hand speed seems good enough to keep up with the smaller fighters. His record is a head scratcher for me. As for Lopez: he doesn’t get the respect that he deserves. By extension, I’d say JMM and Nacho Beristain don’t get their proper respect either.
Donald Curry had over 400 amateur wins with just a handful of losses. Not sure of any of the exact opposition he fought though, just remember that bit of information from the Milton/Curry pre-fight hype show they had.
Right, Chambers turned pro at 18, meaning he was a junior amateur ( age group 11-17 years ) for most of his amateur matches. I don't think a loss at 17 years of age in the amateurs means as much as a loss at say age 22-24 in the amateurs. Upper weight amateur fighters at heavyweight or super heavyweight, are almost never at the world-class level before their 18th birthday. There is a vast difference physically between most boxers at age 18, age 20, and age 24 in the upper weights. Some of the best jr's in the upper weight are frozen once they move to the senior division at age 18...no way could they compete with a 22-30 year old man 200+ lbs, especially these days as the best ones tend to be 6'4" - 6'7" tall. But if you're a lower weight fighter, you can be world class at a much earlier age. Ricardo Lopez was a rare technical puncher. I find his accuracy and patience to be amazing, and some of his KO's would make Mike Tyson nod his head.
He lost to Hiram Jackson, Harvey Lacelle, and Pasquale Pesca for sure. Those bouts are documented. He supposedly also lost to Billy Graham before he started using the name Ray Robinson but I have yet to find a ringside account. But Robinson himself states in his biography with Dave Anderson: "I was in with a tough little Irish kid and he got a three round decision. Years later, Billy Graham, who once challenged Kid Gavilan for the welterweight title, reminded me of that fight." Its in the chapter titled "Driftwood and Dice" in my copy its on pages 33 and 34. He also may have lost to Frank Anigiaconna in New Jersey, the newspaper reports for that bout differ. Some say a win some say a loss. He could have lost others as well because we are missing several reports for his bouts. It doesn't detract from his record because he was only an amateur and those losses were early in his amateur career but they were losses none the less. I believe that there has been a misconception with Robinson's record. I believe that people have taken early reports of Robinsons record as an amateur stating "unbeaten in 85 fights" to mean his amateur record was 85-0. This is incorrect. I believe he had many more fights as an amateur than 85 but that he hadnt been beaten in his last 85 fights as an amateur. Several times when he became an internationally recognized amateur star and great things were expected of him, he refused to fight difficult opponents rather than risk a blemish on that glossy winning streak.
The guy that is really overlooked is JC Gomez. He was under the radar as an amateur and as a pro as well. Another one with a terrific record was Johnny Duplooy---225-3 as a heavy. I think he fought 1 guy 228X to amass a record like that.
