Amateur records of some of your favourite professional fighters!

http://www.boxing-scoop.com/show_boxer.php?boxer_ID=8586
Selimov has beaten twice lomachenko so his record is not accurate

 

Very true.

 

They fought three times (2007, 2008, 2013) and all of them are available online to watch. Boxing Scoop is not accurate. Late December i saw a website that listed Adrian Broner's loss to Maidana as having been via ****. Websites can be unreliable.

Edit - some of the fights at the bottom with no dates are repeats of the same result. Notice how both Selimov losses have the same score 11-16. Oscar Valdez underneath that is listed as a 12-1 win as is the same Valdez win above even though they only fought once and both of those fights took place at World Championships (2007,2009) How reliable is a site that can't even list dates for WC fights and repeats results ffs.

 

They counted the loss at the 2007 world championships twice, he lost once in 2007 , then beat him in 2008 at the Olympics, then beat him over 5 rounds in the WSB

 

I think you should include world championships there definetly harder to win than the Olympics and a better indication of how good a fighter is.

 

2011 Worlds had 685 boxers from 127 countries while the 2012 Olympics had 250 boxers (not sure how many countries) More people participating makes it more difficult to win and the Olympic qualifying is ******ed with many of the top boxers not making it due to ridiculous continental quotas, ratings, seeding systems and stacking brackets during qualifying.

I remember in the European qualifying for SHW there were four brackets and one bracket had Omarov, Hrgovic, Zuyev and Nistor (who were all top 15 in the world) which ensured only one of them could reach the finals to qualify while two of the other brackets were filled with nobodies. If a objective observer made a top 15 rankings for SHW's worldwide probably half of them weren't even at the Olympics.

 

1.the draw in the Olympics sometimes seems like its not seeded, example Lomachenko vs selimov in the first round of the 2008 Olympics at the time the two best featherweight in the world by far, so that meant that three less talented boxers got medals while selimov didn't. The world championships are seeded which means usually the best boxers make it to the latter stages of the competition,

2. Number of entrants. Every country is allow to send a full squad of boxers to the world championships, this mean that fighters usually have to have 1 to 3 more fights to win the world championships than to win the Olympics. It also means that no good fighter misses out on the world championships unlike the olympics

3. Qualification. Each continent is given a certain number of places in each weight class for fighters to qualify. Europe is by far the strongest continent in amateur boxing, I think Europe won 23 out of the 40 medals available at the 2012 Olympics more than the rest of the world combined. Quality European boxers don't get to compete in the Olympics because its a lot harder to qualify from Europe. This makes it easier to win an Olympic medal as there are less quality boxers competing. eg.Joe ward didn't get to go to the last Olympics because he got robbed at a qualifaction event, three month before the Olympics he comfortably beat Egor Mekhontsev who went on to win the gold medal, this is an example of how quality European boxers not being in the Olympics, he was also reigning European champion at the time

4.Continents such as Africa get the same amount of boxers per weight class as Europe and north America. This is a joke as the whole continent of Africa could only qualify one boxer from the 2011 world championships yet still get the same amount of places at the Olympics in most weight classes as Europe. An example of this is Deontay Wilders bronze medal, he only had to beat 2 boxers from Africa to get his bronze medal before Clemente Russo schooled him. If that was the world championship he would have had to have had at least 2 more fights before winning a medal, and it would have been seeded which would have meant he would have had to fight top class opposition before winning a medal