Amateur Scoring & Why We Need Reform

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  1. Sweet Pea Pacquiao

    Sweet Pea Pacquiao Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The featherweight from Ukraine scored 11 straight between Round 2 and 3 over the Russian defending world champ, taking the lead 13-5 after the third round. So what does he do the last round? Get on his bike and run around for the last 2 minutes.

    Great upset, but because of the system, he knew he could run and make it a less than entertaining fight.

    Thoughts?
     
    Sweet Pea Pacquiao, Aug 10, 2008
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  2. Kolya

    Kolya Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Amateur boxing isn't about entertainment. If it was supposed to be entertaining they'd pay us for it.
     
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  3. o_money

    o_money Boxing Junkie banned

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    Raynell WILLIAMS is a bout to fight...hopefully there's no complaints after this one.
     
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  4. Cain

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    If the Russian couldn't react to the change in tactics and pin down his man, then that's his own fault.
     
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  5. Kolya

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    Raynell should win. That kid can box like hell.
     
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  6. Stinky gloves

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    If in the professional fight you know you lead with a few rounds you would probably run as well for the whole last round to secure your win against oponent who knows that he must knock you out to win.
     
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  7. Sweet Pea Pacquiao

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    Kolya, I'll give you that, that entertainment shouldn't factor.

    But do you like this system better than the old one? I liked the 3-round, 3-minute system that didn't involve the "white part of the glove."
     
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  8. o_money

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    Certainly looked pretty good in that first round:good
     
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  9. Sweet Pea Pacquiao

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    Raynell has sweet handspeed. You think he'll medal? Who is in his bracket?
     
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  10. Kolya

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    He should medal, he got a good draw and the world champion, Albert Selimov, is out already.

    We're switching back to 3x3 in January, after the games; and I like the current scoring system in terms of the criteria for it. It's been based on the white portion of the glove landing for a long time, since the 70's at least.
     
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  11. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    This what i said yesterday... i saw many "runners" in these fights.
     
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  12. o_money

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    Hey Kolya, with the current system what happens when there is a tie on points at teh end of the fight?
     
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  13. o_money

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    The hell with the scoring this Khedafi DJELKHIR dude from france is the ****....should make a good pro.
     
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  14. WhataRock

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    Count back??

    I think they go through a count how many times each judge presses the button and add them all up.
    Because 3 out of the 5 judges need to press the buzzer within a second of each other for a punch to score, there would be many times where an apparent scoring punch does not register.

    Is that right?
     
    WhataRock, Aug 11, 2008
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  15. Sweet Pea Pacquiao

    Sweet Pea Pacquiao Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is a hell of a war between the Australian and the Frenchman. How do you think Williams will fare against each style (Australian = southpaw boxer, Frenchman = orthodox pressure fighter)???

    Also, I wouldn't mind the current system as much, but I think Standing 8s or KDs should count for at least 3 points. Otherwise, guys who are ahead by a lot could just take knees in the late seconds of a fight, especially if they are hurt or are on the verge of getting KOed.
     
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