I agree his persona may have prevented him from being a star in the USA. However, the same persona seemed to resonate in Europe and South America. In France and Italy he was huge during his title reign. He was the toast of movie stars (Alain Delon) and transcended boxing.
The most amazing thing BG, and I've mentioned this before, is that NO ONE...even in his native Argentina has written a biography on the man...and this is so strange as to be incredible. No movie, no bio...it's almost unexplainable.
I agree. I think the fact that he went for the KO late on when he was miles ahead against a very dangerous opponent, who'd seriously rocked him earlier, made that transition complete.
Baffling. I can barely think of a more intriguing life in any sport. Although he was never quite as popular with the masses as Locche back in their respective heydays, but I'm no sure he has one either. :huh
Now that you've mentioned it, I've never seen or heard of a bio on Locche either, and I'd love to have that one to read too.
He could have held and ran as such and survived to the bell to get the win, but he actually traded with Briscoe.
As two other posters have commented on the Briscoe fight...After getting nailed in the ninth, Monzon cooley regained his composure, then made the point of going out and hurting Briscoe in the tenth (badly). To me, Monzon demonstrated a fierce pride and determination in being middleweight champion. Thus he was so consistant in his reign. He really gave out a beating to Briscoe in that fight. He also gave a vicious, sustained, beating to Valdez, in both of their fights...IMO he took something out of both Briscoe and Valdez.
Monzon's two victories over a prime Valdez is all the more amazing in that he was virtually at the tail end of his career..getting old, with increasing problems with arthritis and still outboxed, outfought and outgutted Rodrigo..a truly top-line quality opponent.
That is true, Cobra...Even though it was Monzon's last fight, I think it was one of his best fights. He might not have been the same physically as he was when younger...but the experience and ring smarts were never more evident in his dismantling of Valdez (who incidentally fought a much better fight in the rematch...You can tell Clancey had trained him to move his head more and press...In fact, I think that both were better in the rematch)
Oh yeah, both were tuned into the rematch...all the talk about Valdez being distracted in the first bout due to his brother being murdered...this was an epic contest, and people tend to forget, after all it was back in the murky, soneage times of the mid senties...just how damned good Rodrigo Valdez was. He destroyed Bennie Briscoe, and impressed the hell out of me in doing so, and even in a defense that he was expected to win, in '75 against Max Cohen in Paris, he was a MONSTER in that fight...fast, powerful and deadly accurate in devouring the Frenchman...he looked like a great fighter...and after nearly 6 years as champion, it wasn't a cinch that Monzon could take this guy...but he did TWICE...ending his championship tenure on top,,then walking away. Monzon had far more smarts and good judgement in his boxing life than he did in his out of the ring life.
It is amazing and sad. I would love to read a comprehensive biography on the man. I would love to learn more about his youth, his early career in Argentina, his years at the top of the game, and back ground stories about his major fights. Let's hope someone decides to write this story soon!
Locche would be a great story. Since we are discussing great Argentine fighters, is there a book about Galindez?
Agree. Rodrigo Valdez is one of the great middleweights of all time. He is sadly underrated on this forum and by history. His fights with Briscoe rarely get mentioned any more. His KO win over Briscoe was absolutely spectacular. In my view a prime Valdez could have beaten Hagler.
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You thoroughly underrate Hagler yet again. Valdez was among the best ever on the inside and within optimal range, so long as the opponent obliged him in that type of fight. Against out-boxers, defensive cuties and mobile boxer-punchers he wasn't quite as impressive. Hagler could be all of those things in his younger days, and always opted to fight the smart route against the most dangerous pressure stylists and punchers like Briscoe and Hart, even though he was capable of standing his ground. He had the ability to utilize all the skills that Valdez was at his worst against, as well as the ability to match him for periods at his strength, in-fighting. Valdez had some awesome tools, but he lacked the completeness and mental fortitude of Hagler.