Amazing Extensive Dempsey Footage - Pre Carpentier Fight

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  1. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    Awesome footage. Thanks for sharing HG:good
     
  2. Pachilles

    Pachilles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why didnt he fight that black guy?
     
  3. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    he, great stuff. Now ESB posters, just look at the tremendous difference
    this clip of the PRIME 26 year old Dempsey, that moves around against his smaller sparring partners, compared to the 32 year old, legs shot, Dempsey of the Tunney fights,after a 3 year layoff !.Like day and night. THIS is the Dempsey that was voted the best heavyweight by a poll of boxing experts
    in the 50s and early 1960s. The 32 year old Dempsey of the Tunney fights was an imposter. Thanks he.:good
     
  4. brando18b4h

    brando18b4h Active Member Full Member

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    Wow, that was great, It really showed Dempseys foot and hand speed. Good hard training and at the end he gets in that little rickity bed. Dempsey was a Beast. Thank you for sharing this.
     
  5. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Dempsey at 190 looks to me like a physical clone of Evander Holyfield ... a half inch shorter, reach basically the same ... long, lanky arms .. strong backs and shoulders ... slender but strong legs ... no doubt to me in a 1990's version he fights comfortably at 215 or so ...

    I really enjoyed the footage ...he really looked like a young tiger, didn't he ?
     
  6. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Check out Georges ... does not look like some frail nothing to me ... he's built better than Roy Jones .... good thing all the old timers looked like they had TB, right ... next thing we might go out on a limb and say a few could actually fight a bit ...
     
  7. he grant

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    He looks like he could be that Dempey's son ... the difference in the spring and speed is day and night ...
     
  8. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    he,Dempsey's weight was very decieving. He had dancers legs, and a small waist ,while ha was very broad on top with unusually developed deltoid muscles . His main asset was his welterweight-like speed and movement
    on the attrack. And of course great two handed power,and a kill or be killed attitude. This combo, speed, power,and sheer toughness,when at his peak
    made Dempsey very very tough to beat. Hell,even when he was a shell of himself, he eventually wore down a PEAK 25 year old Jack Sharkey and flattened Sharkey with one left-hook. And NO Dempsey didn,t hit Sharkey in the nuts.They were borderline at worst, but Sharkey was weakening from the body blows, and needed a good excuse for Dempsey to be disqualified.
    Dempsey and Louis were not carrying around excess weight,as some
    modern dreadnaughts carry today...Cheers he.
     
  9. mcvey

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  10. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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  11. manbearpig

    manbearpig A Scottish Noob Full Member

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    I laughed at the Chicken watermark. Very apt.
     
  12. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    he, Do I detect a convert ?
     
  13. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    I'm always a huge fan ... I have questions based on what I see from fights and who he did not fight ... not doubt he was an exceptional physical talent and a brutally tough guy ... it's just how great based on achievement , opposition met and avoided and inactivity ... to me he could have been a 190 Paq if he fought and trained regularly and maxed out his talent ... the rub is that he didn't .. look at the physical difference between the guy in this film and the faded, post Hollywood version that fought Tunney and Sharkey .. the guy that fought Tunney and Sharkey was a like kind vintage to the Ali that fought Spinks in my book and he still beat Sharkey and almost took out Tunney ..
     
  14. lufcrazy

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    Burt, I have a question, my friend.

    How is it you are so determined it was a body shot and not a low blow.