America lives in dreamland

Well said.

 

sorry mate, they've already replaced pavlik with dawson .

 

They do not have the capacity to look further than the end of their own noses. Thats why their foreign policy is a disaster. :verysad

 

100% Correct.:good

 

The overrating of Pavlik by the Yanks (and Taylor before him) was always as a soother for them having no decent heavyweights. If you can't own the heavies then the middles is the next best thing.

 

Yeah, that's why none of the top 3 world p4p are American, and only 2 (probably now only 1 after Pavlik's performance) in the top 10 are American. Because American journalists don't rate non-Yanks. What a load of tired old tampax.

 

Many brits are easily as parochial as Americans (when it comes to sport that is), look at the David Haye craze on these boards, apparently he will knock out both Klitschkos in one night with his eyes closed with one hand tied behind his back.

 

These threads are as slanted and ill-informed as the US fight fans they aim to criticize. I'm American and Calzaghe's my favorite fighter. I've posted repeatedly that Pavlik had not been tested by an elite fighter yet (much like David Haye, who has been deified by English fans here). And I said that prime for prime Calzaghe would school Pavlik. And I'm fairly certain that I'm not alone among US fans on this site as far as my opinions. American foreign policy is a disaster though, I'll give you that much. Hopefully that will change in a couple of months.

 

You expect us to take note of fighters like Woods, Locket, Khan that get destroyed by the first good(usually American) competition they face?

 

You should try and cherrypick your examples a bit more carefully, none of those fighters suffered his first loss to an American.

 

That is a little exagerated but you are right for sure

 

i like calzaghe and im from America. It goes both ways ways. everyone on this board was pro Hatton until he got his arse kicked. Same thing now with Haye. to be honest America does have better boxers. Everyone knew PAvlick was overated. Its not really the posters. I see it more with the media than anything else.

 

Look. I always say that a boxing nation can only root for what they can see... in Germany everyone though Michalczewski would beat Jones, Ottke would beat Calzaghe. In the UK Khan was the next big thing, but even Witter was supposed to beat everyone out there. In Japan, they think Koki Kameda will rule the lower divisions. JuanMa is the man in Puerto Rico to be the next Tito. Vazquez as Margarito are the new icons for Mexicans. For the States, there are few true US-born, English-speaking talents, and they can only see what the TV shows - they didn't see Calzaghe's career in progress or Kessler in his earlier days or Kameda brothers at work or Chris John's defenses or Beibut Shumedov amazing run. Therefore it's easy to jump on a bandwagon especially if someone is being build up smartly. As far as it's not "ATG-beater"-like nuthuggery, I say that's the way it should be... Very few fans has the world-wide perspective and hardcore knowledge and then again: you can only have opinion on what you can see, and if it's Kelly beating Taylor and Miranda, it's all they can comment on.

 

No he won't. Haye will most likey have his head seperated from his shoulders. He will also get his upperbody seperated from his lower bodsy aswell if he ends up fighting Vitali

I'm from England btw :hi: