America lives in dreamland

you shouldn't be as prejudiced as to generalize and group all americans in the same breath....not every american roots for fighters just because there're american, or looks down on fighters if they're not from america

 

Hence I used the word many and not all.

 

Usually! nut:nut

And who said it was there first loss?

 

Calzaghe is the only undefeated fighter on that list and Lewis and the Klits have a combined 6 losses to Americans, all 6 via stoppage.

 

As I understand everyone here has the Klitschkos as the top heavyweights and Lennox as the last great heavyweight. There are not arguments about that. Calzaghe is another story, the problem is you guys are trying to make him out more than he is and you see push back.

 

That is the truth,the man exagerated a little but he is right basically :good

 

Er, you did!!

 

Well, just look at the heavyweight division and how much we hyped "American" Sam Peter.

We're just on this side of the pond looking for the "Great American Hope".

In all reality, this is a sport where the best only fight two or three times a year. So naturally, that leaves the fans a lot of time to jawbone on who's the best.

 

Please point out where I say it is their FIRST loss.

 

OK - as a Brit fan......

I think picking Lockett and Khan as examples is shocking. Lockett was a Sports Network WBU fraud who was gifted a shot at a WBO title on the basis that Frank Warren was his promoter. Nowhere near the top 10 P4P in the UK never mind Europe - a bad beating was always coming his way.

Amir Khan has long been known for having a shaky chin. In one of his latter amateur bouts he was sent on Zab vs Tszyu mode by Craig Watson - a guy with a 13-2 pro record currently. Those who believe the hype trains need their heads examining.

 

Bad examples mate. We've been waiting for ages to see how far the glass ceiling would extend for Amir Khan. Not to far as it turns out.
And Prescott is Columbian. (Technically a South American)


Gary Locket was tipped by virtually no one on these boards to beat Pavlik. A russian handed him his first loss I believe. He hadn't been considered a prospect in years.

Woods is liked because he was an overachiever who made the most of his fairly ordinairy talent. Also the first guy to beat him was a brit named David Starie.

 

My point is, is that this thread is obviously in response to Pavlik losing. Losses happen. If Americans are in dreamland because we believed in a fighter that lost one time, what does that say about countries that backed fighters like Lewis who was knocked out twice by guys nowhere near the level of Hopkins?

 

Americans bash euros,euros bash americans-it's just the way it is and can't be changed.

 

Could you please state these Americans that you have a problem with? I hate it when people generalize on here without calling out the people that they have a problem with.

 

And Sir Les Patterson bashes the bishop.