American Boxing...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Ray Robinson, Mar 11, 2008.


  1. ardy

    ardy UP THE IRISH Full Member

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    Yeah, their are plenty of doormen, wanting to give it a go.:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl They would beat Ken Shamrock anyway.
     
  2. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I thought your comment was ignorant sir, I didnt seem like you were joking, so I said what I said. Just like anything else in life, things go in cycles, just a little over 2 years ago all the Heavyweight champs were American, Ruiz - WBA, Bryd - IBF, Rahman - WBC, and Brewster - WBO, two years is far dominance of a sport, even in the Heavyweight division you have guys losing belts left and right, not all of which are of European decent, Briggs beat a Euro to get the belt in late 06, and lost it to a Euro in 07, Sam Peter is now a title holder, and he's from Nigeria, not European.

    Boxing is not as popular as it once was in the states, a big reason being the UFC, most teens and 20 somethings rather go and do that, then hit the Boxing gym, less Boxing gyms, means less American talent, believe what you want to believe, but Boxing gyms are closing left and right, and being replaced by fight leagues/MMA leagues in the states.
     
  3. marting

    marting Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'll have to take your word on what Ken Shamrock's chances were or are.

    I follow boxing not UFC. And I don't eat at KFC either.
     
  4. Shadowbox39

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    I forget what commentator said it on HBO...but he was spot on in my opinion.....when asked where is the American talent in the Heavy Weight Division...the simple reply was...."they are playing linebacker in the NFL"....if you think about it....that is where all the best American talent at that weight level are.....all our best athletes are trying to make it into the NFL or NBA. Boxing isn't as appealing to american youth as it was back in the day! In any event, boxing is cultural....guys growing up on the street in rough areas are more likely to enter a boxing gym...some of these guys will make it...some will end up in jail....the odds against them making it are staggering...so I think there are alot of variables to include...but it is only a matter of time before a couple of phenoms come along and the American heavyweight becomes a factor again....
     
  5. Ray Robinson

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    I think we all make some good points. I always felt that we have been in a golden era for the last 20 years. Just was thinking about how things will look in the future.
     
  6. Ray Robinson

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  7. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    European boxers are hated by American boxing media to the extreme.
     
  8. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    And it's not provincial either.
     
  9. Kolya

    Kolya Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Guys, see my post. We have some very good boxers on our Olympic team this year; and the alternates that are training with them ain't half bad either-and without fail, most of them are extremely young, aside from our senior member who's 33, the next oldest is 24.
     
  10. Ray Robinson

    Ray Robinson Member Full Member

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    Hopefully the future is as promising as some of you would make it seem.:good
     
  11. Kolya

    Kolya Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I feel fairly safe in saying Rau'shee Warren will be a force at 112-122 possibly over the next decade or so.
     
  12. Farmboxer

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    Like I have said before, I know the "real" reason for the Klitschko hating, actually Euro in general.
     
  13. Ray Robinson

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    I think the hating on the Klits is silly....there is no doubt that they are the most skilled Heavy's in the world.

    I would favor a healthy Vitali over any fighter above 200 LBS. including his brother.

    Vitali has a great defense, offense, and chin...
     
  14. Farmboxer

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    There were times when Vitali fought for free, coming from a kickboxing fight to a boxing fight! Vitali is a true warrior.
     
  15. Ray Robinson

    Ray Robinson Member Full Member

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    I like Vitali....but I doubt that he has ever fought for free....


    Show me some :deal (excluding amateur)....