American super middleweights of the last 10 years and some questions

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  1. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    No they didnt. I dont want this thread to be about Calzaghe and Ottkes reign, they were 2 outstanding SMWs with the best resumes of the division history, so lets not debate about them on this thread as it wouldnt be fair to any other SMW.

    What 90s SMWs are you reffering to and what was so good about them in your opinion?
     
    bailey, Jan 4, 2011
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  2. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    Personally, I think Froch would have beaten down Beyer. Beyer couldn't handle Bika even. Abraham I've always felt was overrated.
     
    Brickhaus, Jan 4, 2011
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  3. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Froch may well have done, but I dont think it is clear cut by any means.
    When Beyer fought Bika he was well past his best and showing clear decline. D Green was a very similar SMW to Froch but a bit faster and a harder puncher. I think Froch is a bit more versatile though. Still Beyer was able to ride the storm and out box Green so I personally think he would out box Froch, in a fight that Froch would let slip through his fingers, but I wouldnt bet against Froch coming back to score a KO to render the cards useless
     
    bailey, Jan 4, 2011
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  4. g.dog

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    Toney,Benn,Eubank,Nunn,Littles,Liles wit Jones,Gman and Collins comin up. Well better than Beyer, Green and all that shite.
     
    g.dog, Jan 4, 2011
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  5. hoopsman

    hoopsman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You are a tosser incapable of posting a thread without involving American fighters and corresponding comparisons. :scaredas:
     
    hoopsman, Jan 4, 2011
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  6. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Read below. You are delusional.
    Where are the comparisons? There arent any are there :lol::-(
    If you look through the previous threads I have done, you will see there are many not involving American fighters, like the thread where I picked Froch to beat Abraham.

    You have made yourself out to be a right numpty now :lol:
    No comparisons :patsch:lol:
     
    bailey, Jan 5, 2011
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  7. hoopsman

    hoopsman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Review question and get back to me. Once again, you are trying to backdoor your way into your usual hobby horse: American fighters and whether they are overhyped, overrated, et al.
     
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  8. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Review what question :huh.
    Backdoor into what hobby horse. As said you are delusional and obviously suffer an inferiority complex. I havent called these fighters overrated here. A matter of fact, 2 of them have had their career highlights listed and proven themselves as better fighters than many give them credit for.

    An inferiority complex is a terrible thing to live with. Now why dont you, who has made the comments try and tell me exactly what is wrong with this thread, when nothing derogatory has been said. This should be good
     
    bailey, Jan 5, 2011
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  9. BEASTLY PEPE

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    American SMWs of the last 10 years we're bad /endthread

    You're worse though, I could beat you easily
     
    BEASTLY PEPE, Jan 5, 2011
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  10. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    What are you going on about :huh.
    Anyway, Not all American SMWs of the last 10 years were bad, they were just a bit forgotten by their own
     
    bailey, Jan 5, 2011
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  11. hoopsman

    hoopsman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Inferiority complex in relation to what?? The Brits or UK?? :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

    Wait.....:rofl:rofl:rofl... One more second.... :rofl:rofl

    Ok, I'm done now.
     
    hoopsman, Jan 5, 2011
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  12. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Sums you up completely. When questions were posed to you, based on your comments you couldnt answer. You say Im a troll, but the only person comparing countries is you. You have just tried it with your last post.
    Now run along
     
    bailey, Jan 5, 2011
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  13. hoopsman

    hoopsman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes, you have thoroughly outwitted me. :rofl
     
    hoopsman, Jan 5, 2011
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  14. BEASTLY PEPE

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    Lacy is a one dimensional plodder, with poor defense and very poor skills, his head movement is poor, his hand speed is average or below average, his footwork is atrocious, he completely lacks the ability to make adjustments because of his limited toolbox of skills, he lacks the ability to counter punch completely.

    I could go on all day, he's a tomato can, he had some pop if you were there to be hit that's about it.
     
    BEASTLY PEPE, Jan 5, 2011
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  15. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This.

    Established Champions of the 90's

    Iran Barkley
    James Toney
    Roy Jones Jr
    Michael Nunn
    Frankie Liles
    Nigel Benn
    Chris Eubank
    Steve Collins

    Challengers
    Thulani Malinga
    Michael Watson
    Graciano Rocchigiani
    Nicky Piper
    McClennan
    Vincenzo Nardiello
    Steve Little
    Tim Littles
    Eric Lucas

    Now Compare that to Calzaghe and Ottke's era

    Established champions
    Joe Calzaghe
    Sven Ottke
    Jeff Lacy
    Markus Beyer
    Mikkel Kessler

    Challengers
    Omar Sheika
    Charles Brewer
    Byron Mitchell
    Manny Siaca
    Robin Reid
    Glen Johnson
    Anthony Mundine
    Bruno Girad
    Richie Woodhall

    No comparison
     
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