American super middleweights of the last 10 years and some questions

I made this video before the Calzaghe vs Roy Jones fight:-

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fi6sW4P5wJI[/ame]

As you can see from the video, I clearly highlighted RJJ being SHOT, and also said bring back the old RJJ kills Calzaghe.

I picked RJJ to beat Calzaghe, thats just me using my heart over my head. I didnt like the fact that Calzaghe was being a coward and saying that this is his last fight, without facing Hopkins II, Dawson, Pavlik, Froch or any other young guns so Calzaghe can show he knows how to use his experience. Calzaghe did the ***** thing, and I dont really like mans who act like ***gots in the ring, and act like pussies outsides.

The S6 with the replacements is tougher than the one it started off with. So it dont either way.

Instead of changing the topic please reply to this, the point I made was this:-

If you want to discuss the top 10 of 2005, vs the top 10 of 2010, then we can discuss that but seperately from the point I raised above.

Please respond to the S6 of calzaghe era, to the one I talked about.

 

I just proved to you, that just because you quote a fact, it dont mean you proved the point. And I felt it was relevant to this.

I never labelled his faults. Lets go in chronological order.

BEASTLY PEPE says American SMW's were bad

You say they were not bad

BEASTLY PEPE schools you on how Jeff Lacy was bad by mentioning the following points.

You in return quoted some stuff of boxrec in rebuttal.

I come in and laugh at some of the points you raised since they were pretty **** points like beating Scott Pemberton. And then you know the rest.

As you can see from the above chronological order events, I never mentioned his faults, BEASTLY PEPE did and you tried to refute him by quoting some boxrec lines.

Also, just because you are in the top 10 it dont mean you are great or good.

Roy Jones Jr was in the top 10 when Calzaghe fought him, so was peter Manfredo.

The HW division has been **** in recent years and you have unknown men who were in the top 10 like Vladimir Virchis?

Well he changed the topic, but as you can see from the chronological events I mentioned above you are also to be blamed there.

 

Lets see the chronological order of events once again:-

In response to a random poster who mentioned Calzaghe:-

You said:-

To which I clarified I dont give a **** about this thread being about Calzaghe or not here:-

To which you said that:-

Is better than the S6 of today:

To which I said:-

And for some reason you didnt want to reply to this, and began to talk about 2005 SMW top 10. So as you can see from the chronological order of events, you failed to respond not me.

I proven from the chronological order of events above that the mentioning of 2005 SMW was absolutley unnecessary and you also admitted to it by quoting some random quote that was in relation to somebody else and not me.

As you can see from the chronological order of events, I included Bute, Steiglitz and Sartison as I thought it would be only fair since they are off the era of today.

Those are excuses, Froch said an excuse about the volcano and not fighting at home, put that into the equation. It still dont prove that the best 6 fighters of today are better than the ones you mentioned from Calzaghe's era.

Calzaghe era was filled with pussies including Calzaghe himself, and Sven Ottke who would have been to much ***** hearted to join a S6. But todays you got skilled fighters doing this.

IMO, Bute, Froch, Kessler, Ward, Dirrell, Steiglitz. Would be more of a tournament than Calzaghe, Kessler, Ottke, Beyer, Lacy, Mitchell.

But Calzaghe and Ottke were a bunch of ***** hearts to even get into a fight with each other.

 

You aint conditioned to do the full 15 rounds and quit on the stool 2 rounds in.

No need to comeback man, your thread got put to bed.

 

You got schooled by BEASTLY PEPE that Lacy is a **** fighter, so you tried to refute him by using boxrec quotes, its all recorded here. Now you saying you didnt do jack.

BEASTLY PEPE schooling you that Jeff Lacy is a **** fighter had you on ***** street so you tried to change the topic.

you gave some facts about Jeff Lacy while quoting BEASTLY PEPE who had schooled you earlier. What point were you trying to make?

 

Top 10 Super Middleweights of 2005 vs The Top 10 Super Middleweights of today


Calzaghe vs Froch
- Calzaghe's best wins in 2005 was over past prime Chris Eubank, Byron Mitchell, and Mario Veit. Also got knockdowned by Kabery Salem and Byron Mitchell.
- Froch has beaten, Abraham, Pascal, Dirrell and Taylor, which are clearly better wins than the ones Calzaghe had in 2005.

1 - 0 to the SMW of today.

Kessler vs Ward
- Kessler's best win at the time was Mundine and Siaca.
- Wards best wins are Kessler, Green and Bika.

2 - 0 to the SMW of today

Lacy vs Bute
- Lacy had beaten Vanderpool, old Reid, Pemberton.
- Bute had beaten Miranda, Bika, Joppy

3 - 0 to the SMW of today

Markus Beyer vs Mikkel Kessler
- Beyer had beaten Sheika, Green, and Lucas
- Kessler has beaten Froch, Beyer himself, Andrade, Sartison

4 - 0 to the SMW of today

Mundine vs Dirrell
- Mundine had beaten Echols and Sam Soliman
- Dirrell has beaten Abraham and Hanshaw

5 - 0 to the SMW of today.

Green vs Andrade
- Green's best win was Lucas.
- Andrade has beaten Lucas, Steiglitz and Mack

6 - 0 to the SMW of today

Siaca vs Johnson
- Siaca had beaten Mundine
- Johnson has beaten RJJ, Mack, Green

7 - 0 to the SMW of today

Grant vs Steiglitz
- Grant had beaten Ryan Rhodes.
- Steiglitz had beaten Orrnelious and Barzay

8 - 0 to the SMW of today

Reid vs Abraham
- Reid had beaten Nardiello and Cherifi
- Abraham has beaten Taylor and Miranda

9 - 0 to the SMW of today

Andrade vs Sartison

10 - 0 to the SMW of today

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Conclusion

The SMW of today **** over the SMW of 2005

 

Owned. Wow I dont even post on this forum much anymore and its refreshing to pop in every once and awhile and see Bailey getting owned just like the good ole days.

 

By the way that pwnage of bailey above that 2005 SMW vs todays was in response to this:-