"Americans are playing other sports" is nonsense

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Cachibatches, Feb 25, 2008.


  1. PolishPummler

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    That's the fun, just like these never ending excuses.
     
  2. Boxfan1

    Boxfan1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In the end, does this really matter? America is no longer the dominant force in basketball, baseball, track and who knows what else. Heavy weight Boxing is only the latest thing to go. And if you ask me, the main reason for this is diversity. Here in the U.S., if you aren't a black athlete, that's a negative right from the get go. If you happen to be asian or white/hispanic, you don't even get noticed. I think of all the great talent I've seen through the years that simply gets discarded because of appearance. Basically, the US reverse discriminates against all other races and ethnic groups when it comes to selecting athletes. In that lies the majority of the problem facing the sports programs. Until this practice changes, and everyone is allowed to participate on equal footing, we will continue to see a decline of the U.S. in global sports. Asides from this, we must also remember that the current crop of eastern european fighters around today are all the last products of the soviet sports machine. These guys were handpicked as children using rigorous testing and placed in selected sports programs. They are the best of a previously huge empire that spanned an area three times larger than the U.S.. They were molded to be world beaters and honed to execute with precision, power and skill on a global playing field (Olympics).
     
  3. OLD FOGEY

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    So was Paul Anderson. Look at his boxing record.
     
  4. 196osh

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    :rofl :rofl :rofl
     
  5. PolishPummler

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    Already mentioned my thoughts on Ray Lewis...Americas should be HW Champ.

    The last time he got into a "fight" along with his 2 friends 2 people ended up dying from stab wounds.Goes to show how much fight Ray Lewis has in him.Outnumbered the guys he was fighting 3 to 2 yet had to resort to weapons.
     
  6. PolishPummler

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    You are getting the point...good.

    Take a look at any ex NFL or NBA players Boxing record.
     
  7. Pimp C

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    last time I checked the US was still damn good in track and will probably win gold in basketball in the olympics.
     
  8. Arran

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    track is no longer a sport that can be recognised as fair with the recent spike in drugs cheats.
     
  9. OLD FOGEY

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    I don't know of any NBA players who have boxed seriously.

    NFL players:

    Jack Torrance--played for the Bears in the late 30's and 40's--was also I think the world shotput record holder at one time.

    8 fights--won 6--lost 2--6 knockouts
    fought mainly second raters but was ko'd by Abe Simon-Torrence was 6' 5" and 250 lbs

    Ed (Too-tall) Jones--played for Dallas Cowboys in the 1970's and 1980's and was an all-pro 6' 9" and 270 lbs

    6 fights--won 6--lost 0--5 knockouts
    fought second raters but quickly gave up boxing career to go back to Cowboys.

    Mark Gastineau--played for Jets in 70's & 80's--all pro 6' 6" 260 lbs
    18 fights--won 15--lost 2--15 knockouts 1 no decision
    Went into boxing at 36. Fought second raters.

    Charley Powell--played for San Franciso & Oakland in 1950's and 1960's.
    39 fights--won 25--lost 11--drew 3 17 knockouts
    More successful actually at boxing than football. Broke into the top ten in 1959. Had knockout victories over Nino Valdes and Harold Carter. 6' 4" 210 lbs. Played football at about 230.
     
  10. Arran

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    wasnt thier a world war going on in 30 and 40s in pretty much everywhere but the americas?
     
  11. Loufatski

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    It is TOTAL bull**** because Europeans play other sports too. Excuses, excuses. Face it, when the Iron Curtain came down all the talent started coming out. Andrew Golota was the first, and today at age 40 he's still able to compete at the top level.
     
  12. OLD FOGEY

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    If this is a reference to Torrance, I think he held the world record around 1934 or so.

    I just checked with boxrec and Torrance was the world shotput record holder before taking up boxing in 1936.
     
  13. OLD FOGEY

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    Error-disregard
     
  14. nezy37

    nezy37 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    For me the nearest boxing gym to my house is over an hour away. How the hell is any kid going to learn to box if they can't get to gyms themselves not to mention it being in another city.

    I got to go to a University of Wisconsin practice a couple of years ago and I watched the O line practice, this is when they had Joe Thomas now of the Clevland Browns. The man is an absolute freak of nature when it comes to athletic ability. Not so much running in a straight line but how good his feet are, I was basically in awe, you don't get a feel at how quick these offensive tackles are on TV or in the stands. The next great American heavyweight is currently playing left tackle in the NFL
     
  15. PolishPummler

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    In Poland when the churches are packed the masses flock to the tens of thousands of Boxing gyms to worship a pic of Andrew Golota.


    True Story!