Americans, how do you think boxing can return to some of the glory days over there?

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  1. Irelandsthebest

    Irelandsthebest Active Member Full Member

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    You are constantly hearing people on here say that boxing is not nearly as big in America as it has been in the past and is "dying" over there, so this is why i'm making the assumption that it is not as popular as it has been with general people over there, so to those Americans who say that, how do you think boxing can become as big with the general public over there as it has been at times in the past? Or do you feel that it simply cannot reach those heights again in America?
     
  2. juanitoboxing

    juanitoboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    elect a Puerto Rican President and a Mexican Vice President
     
  3. bkamins

    bkamins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    One word: IMMIGRATION. Mexicans are huge boxing fans and the more mexicans that come here, the more fans we have. Why do you think Arreola is on HBO while champs like Wlad, Vitali and Haye can't get a deal. :D
     
  4. bkamins

    bkamins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    As for the heavies, its hard to see much of a future for them in America.
     
  5. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    On my TV guide, HBO listed the Pavlik/Martinez fight as simply "middleweight bout". ...They're not even trying. It was THE middleweight championship of the world. Not even just A middleweight world championship. They didn't even mention it being a title fight.
     
  6. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    There have to be more efficient ways of having the best fighting the best in a division, such as the super six, and more expansive marketing. I trust they'll amp it up for a Pacquiao Mayyweather bout but all PPV fights as well as weekly fights should be expanded into other markets in order to reach non-fans and grow in terms of fanbase.
     
  7. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    NFL needs to die.
     
  8. Irelandsthebest

    Irelandsthebest Active Member Full Member

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    This is an interesting point, but then that could have a big effect on boxing because if the demand for boxing in America is coming from say Mexicans, will that not mean that Mexican and other foreign fighters will receive more hype and publicity than some of the young American fighters, which will make it harder for American fighters to become stars if they can't get the publicity over Mexicans in their own country, will this not only make the situation worse then, among Americans?
     
  9. renyo

    renyo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    America is all about politically correct, and boxing does not fit Joe Smiths lifestyle..
     
  10. juanitoboxing

    juanitoboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :yep
     
  11. Irelandsthebest

    Irelandsthebest Active Member Full Member

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    Was NFL not always really popular over there?
     
  12. the prom queen

    the prom queen bitter and clinging Full Member

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    1. local fight venues need to be more vigorously promoted. when people take interest in local fighters that will trickle up
    2. televised boxing on non-cable networks, like back in the day USA's tuesday night fights and fox sports sunday night fights
    3. as another poster said, the spainish speaking networks, soleo boxeo is to return soon
    4. and this isnt likely to happen, but making PPV fights a bit more affordable or putting more huge fights on just plain HBO
     
  13. Brit Sillynanny

    Brit Sillynanny Cold Hard Truth Full Member

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    Basically, American youth can only receive a subsidized education by playing in the three major sports. As such, boxing has been on a relative and comparative downtrend for many, many decades (even though there were still some successful, famous, and well considered fighters/athletes during the 70s, 80s, 90s, etc.). But, compared to the available talent pool (in the US) boxing has had fewer quality athletes (almost none) because of the opportunity afforded by the collegiate/university system which has become an effective "minor league" system for these major sports. These sports are big business in the US - especially college football and basketball. Boxing has survived in spite of this situation but it is no where near what it would be if the best athletes in the nation were participating. When your best athletes are not in a sport then it can't possibly have the same level of success or receive the level of attention it would if everyone was following the competition between the best available youth in the country. Boxing is basically dead. Until the best athletes return in numbers it can't possibly EVER be what it would be if it were a subsidized sport offering an education to the youngest and most talented.

    The US lauds great entertainment. It worships exceptional athletic talent - no matter its country of origin. The US is fully aware that the planet is loaded with great athletic talent. It doesn't follow boxing to a great extent BECAUSE of the obvious lack of EXCEPTIONAL talent that is evident and watched EVERYDAY in the other sports. Until or unless that talent returns boxing will never be what it might be. Few over here are interested in watching "C" level guys who couldn't make it in the comp to succeed in the major sports compete as boxers. Average athletes are merely average athletes - nothing worth watching.

    It is as simple and obvious as that.
     
  14. bkamins

    bkamins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree. Tournaments like the super six are a great start. Also, and I know it will never happen, but getting rid the riduculous 4 so-called legit belts in each of the 16 weight division would be huge. Honestly, we Americans don't have the time or the attention span to keep track of scores of so-called champions. :D
     
  15. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

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    For starters, bring back boxing to regular network tv. In the 80s, boxing was shown on regular tv on the weekends.