Americans, still blame some referee of Bute`s fights?

It's not about americans, romanians and canadians. It's about rules and the mistakes that happen sometimes in a sport like boxing.

A lot of people were mad at the first Andrade fight when the ref start to gimmick. But in that case Bute was up in 8 sec (with a watch). But since it was at the end of the fight, since the ref did some gimick, people complained about it.

Then in this fight, Brinkley drop. He had (with a watch) about 20 seconds on the floor. But since Bute won anyway, since the ref did not make some gimmick, theres no drama.

What I say is the rules are the rules. Rules dont apply at the end of 12th rounds, but not at the end of the 5th. Both ref took 20 seconds to reach in their count of 10, but in one case Bute got up in 8 sec (by watch) and in the other Brinkley was on the floor for 20 sec.

So it's not that we are whiny *****, its just that we think that all the people who called Bute a fraud in the first Andrade fight should now look at that and be sorry, because when it happened it was not the conspiracy theory that some thought at the time.

Those people claimed that it was a fighter (Bute) who make his own rules (count of 20 instead of 10) with his own ref (a canadian) in his own country (in canada).

Now what happened in yesterday's fight was a fighter (Brinkley) who got lucky (count a 20 instead of 10) with a ref from his country (an american) in the country of his opponent (in canada) and it still happened!

So the problem is not the canadian/romanian fighter. the problem is not the canadian ref or the canadian venue (like some people were saying since Andrade 1), it's just boxing with the flaws that happens sometimes.

 

Why do these idiots keep crying about this so-called "long-count" bull**** vs Andrade?

Regardless of the ref's questionable actions, Bute was UP AT THE COUNT OF 8 FROM THE SECOND HE HIT THE CANVAS!!! = He beat the count you fkn morons!!!

If anything, the ref could have waved off the fight based on the way Bute looked after he got to his feet... (Technically that might have been the correct call)

But when you consider the fact that Bute was the champion, had dominated the whole fight, and there was no time left on the clock. (ie, he was not in danger of taking any more punishment since the fight was over) it was hardly the robbery of the century you idiots make it out to be.

Get over it Yankee-Doodle-Dandy!

 

Anyone got a clip of it? I haven't seen it yet. Preferably one where somebody tells me at what point in the video it happens so I don't have to look through 10 minutes of footage to find it in a video of such low quality that I can't even see what round it is to aid me in looking for the knockdown.

 

Post #12 :deal

 

Perhaps you should read through my post again.

At what point in the video does it happen?

 

first vid from the start (it's tha last few seconds of the fight with aftermath)
second vid, knockdown 1 (body shot) @ 5:38

 

go at about 5min30. you can see that brinkley knees hit the floor at 23 sec. before the end of the round and he is not near of getting up 10 sec. later. But anyway, ill let you make your own opinion.

 

You've got to be crazy if you think the ref stuck his neck out for Jesse ****ing Brinkley. Nobody would risk their reputation on him. It was a generous, questionable call but he, along with the rest of the universe, knew that it was only a matter of time.

And get over yourself and your obsession with international conflict - America has nothing against Bute. We don't claim Andrade.

 

Who cares. Fight was not competitive anyhow.

 

I just felt bad for Brinkley that they made him go through 2 more vicious uppercuts.

 

Stop bitching.

It took Brinkley 14 second to clear the floor. Yeah, long count. And then he was taken to the corner to gain some more seconds. And then the bell rang.

So what? It didn't make a difference in the end. But Bute should have closed the show a lot earlier than he did, bad ref or not.

 

I counted 13-14 seconds


Bute beat the count against Andrade. The ref created controversy out of thin air. If Andrade had stayed in the neutral corner, then the ref would not have stopped his count and Bute would still have won, but without the controversy.

 

Indeed, it didn't make any diifference. The point is, some people said in Bute-Andrade I that Bute was corrupted, made his own rules with his own ref. Yesterday shows that these things just happen. Sometime it is to your advantage, sometime not. It is not about corruption, but only that the referee is a human being who makes decisions and sometimes mistakes.

 

When you look at the clock, you see that the count lasted about 17 or 18 real seconds. Of course, a count is not made or real seconds, but it was a long one. Doesn't matter anyway.