Amir Iqbal Khan vs. Ezekiel Brinsley Brook & Natasha Jonas vs. Chris Namus RBR.

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  1. navigator

    navigator "Billy Graham? He's my man." banned Full Member

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    He didn't need to knock him out cold.

    There can be no excuses — both guys were way past their best, and Khan is the reason the fight didn't happen in their primes. Brook was always the much better boxer, much better puncher and much more equipped to take a shot.
     
  2. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Like I said, you have every right to say that. No one can tell you otherwise now that Kell has won the bragging rights. As to there being no excuses, then we'd have to apply the "no excuses" policy to Mayweather Canelo, Canelo GGG, or Mayweather Pacquiao. Some people say because Mayweather beat Canelo and Pacquiao when he did, that means he would always beat any version of them which is mental. Canelo has "bragging rights" on GGG but that hasn't stopped GGG fans from making excuses.

    I'm not going to make excuses for Khan. I was very disappointed in his performance. Kell deserves full credit for the victory, Khan gave a horrible account of himself, but that was clearly a compromised and poor version of Khan. You get to brag about that win forever, hell I'll mock Khan along with you, but what happened last night don't mean that Kell would have always beaten Khan. Khan at his peak had a more successful career than Kell has, that's not a knock on Kell that's just facts. Khan was a more difficult stylistic matchup than Brook ever was, but Khan was also fatally flawed whereas Brook wasn't. Brook was always more fundamentally sound but also less entertaining and less explosive.
     
  3. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    You happen to be the only person in the world that thinks it was low

    Gentlemanly doesn't come in to it
     
  4. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    LOL so you're saying that wasn't low??
     
  5. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Im saying it didnt hit him in the nuts
    And Khan took it as a way out to prevent a knockout

    Anyway you have a GGG thread to do
     
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  6. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You said it hit him in the thigh. I said it hit him in the balls. It didn't hit either.

    It is common to refer to low blows as being hit in the balls.

    Watch the replay,

    https://gfycat.com/amusedtinycutworm-terence-crawford-low-blow

    Clearly "above" the thigh in the pelvis, lower abdominal area, in a painful area.
    Don't you worry about that, we'll get to that for sure.
     
  7. PIPO23

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    Looked like the Brook fight post fight interview. Face looks beaten up. Giving credit to the victor.
     
  8. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    I dont care, i have seen it enough to have this opinion



    Khan quit
     
  9. Cally

    Cally Sand...sand... nothing but sand! Full Member

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    Of course he quit, he didn't even take the time he was allowed to recover from that thigh shot he pretended was a low blow to the nads..

    Of course he quit, his trainer pretty much said he did too at the time.
     
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  10. navigator

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    Khan is the reason the fight didn't happen in their primes. He didn't want it back when it would've been prime vs. prime, and it was never a mystery as to why — he was always "fatally flawed" when it came to this matchup, keen timing combined with punching power has always been his hamartia (fatal flaw) and Brook has always had too much of those qualities (especially wedded to true welterweight size and a very useful jab) for him to cope with. He knew Brook was a problem and didn't want to risk his international relevance by falling to a fellow product of Britain. None of those other matchups have anything to do with it. The Canelo-GGG debate couldn't be less of interest to me.
     
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  11. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    I've read a fair bit since last night about how Kell had rediscovered his timing. Nonsense. It was perhaps better than his previous three fights but still nothing like it was in his prime. There were still a few wild swings last night and he never used to do that.

    Truth is, Khan has lost a fair chunk of his speed and snap and Kell's timing isn't what it was. How far each has fallen from their own primes, God knows. But had this fight taken place seven or eight years ago, it would only have taken longer to reach the same conclusion.

    Khan would have won rounds. He may even have been ahead on the cards but Kell would have found that chin and landed cleaner than he did last night. Kell would always have stopped Khan...
     
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  12. iii

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    Didn't you do the same when Kovalev was hit low in ward fight...?
     
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  13. shadow111

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    Apples to Oranges. Kovalev was ready to go and hunched over. It's harder to place body shots when you're opponent is hunched over like that. None of the low blows before that from Ward were as blatant or as far south of the border as Bud's low blow to Khan. They were all belt-line / borderline until that last one and Kovalev was already ready to go. Khan was starting to time Bud and land some shots, and Bud took the easy way out with a bad low blow. You trying to equate the two situations is quite a stretch.
     
  14. iii

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    Not that Eubank is any good but he's adamn sight better power wise than Old Khan...Kell looked good against worn out Khan but may not be able to muster the same training regime again...plus Eubank Jnr would dearly love to stop Kell quicker & more brutally than GGG...he's such a low class cretin...Typical public schoolboy...
     
  15. iii

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    Oh I see...so when you just stated that : "Low is low. You trying to excuse a blatant low blow is not very gentlemanly of you." you mean it not when its your POV...or you forgot you said Wards Low blows in the groin & on the logo which was middle groin area were not low ...How un-gentlemanly of you , hypocrite seems to fit you very well...