Amir Khan and Pacquiao Drug Accusations

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  1. Concrete

    Concrete Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He and Pac can clean up the sport by making it a common trend for fighters to fight under those conditions. If Mayweather and Pac asked for those conditions for all of there fights and the younger generation adapted those principals from there role models who they look up to. They could clean up the sport somewhat. Guys like Amir Kahn and Bradley who look up to guys like Mayweather and Pac could follow suit.
     
  2. bollocks

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    No, not really. According to Ellerbe, *"No matter what he attempts to convince the public of, there was no effort by Team Mayweather to have the fight at 154, to have a 22-foot ring, or to have 10-ounce gloves."

    If it wasn't asked in the negotiations, then no concessions were given by either side.


    *http://www.doghouseboxing.com/Benz/DHBenz1213a09.htm
     
  3. CoDer

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    Then Floyd start acting gentleman and ask Pacman to help him clean up the sport. By addressing the commission's existing drug test policy.
     
  4. rushman

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    Wait, wait, back up as second.

    A convicted felon, drug trafficking, cokehead scumbag form a family of criminal low lifes - one who has every motivation to lie, comes up with a ridiculous story of "A side meth".

    Not only do a million ****wits take this seriously, but suddenly the stable-mates of that fighter are also suspect?

    You want to know why this world is a ****ed up place? I think this little demonstration of the worst aspects of human nature and unbelievable stupidity is a damn good starting point.
     
  5. punisher

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    Of course he will. But, he can use either one. It is MANNY that presses the issue on glove size. Just check the link I posted, and you will see that. In any case, it is not the issue that derailed THIS fight. However, that is only because Mayweather conceded on that. It could've very well have been the reason, if he hadn't. They would never have gotten to the OSDT demand.
     
  6. Concrete

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    That's fine, as long as you know that Mayweather could have demanded 10 ounce gloves which are commission rules. He could have also made a big issue out of it since they are commission rules in which he would be looking to gain an advantage over Pac.

    But I think those things were all compromised since Mayweather got a preferable weight. As he won't look to make 140 any more.

    It probably went something like Mayweather gets 147, Pac gets 8 ounce gloves.
     
  7. Concrete

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    I don't see the commission ever changing the drug policy because of cost.
     
  8. CoDer

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    You're stretching it. 8 oz gloves is an advantage to Floyd, Cotto, Clottey, Margo wore it against Pacman for the same reason.
     
  9. CoDer

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    Yep that's the commission stand. The cost is too prohibitive, and besides you need to test the fighter even when not fighting if you will really follow OSDT.

    Floyd better drop that clean up the sport line, if can't get past the commission.
     
  10. punisher

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    I can see your point. But, they BOTH have to agree in writing on 8 oz, in Nevada, for a WW bout (according to the NSAC rules at least), which means one side had to bring it up. Otherwise, 10oz is the default size, which will be used.
     
  11. CoDer

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    And they both agreed to it without any problem. :good
     
  12. punisher

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    Again....Floyd can, and has, competed (and won) in either glove size. Pac has not (only 8oz)...and they have made an issue over glove size, before. That issue came up in the ODLH fight. Just check the link I posted, and you will see that. It's obvious Manny would not fight in 10oz gloves (for the first time), against a fighter like Floyd, because, Floyd would have a CLEAR advantage.
     
  13. punisher

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    Floyd chose not to make an issue of it. If he wanted that advantage...he could've pressed for it. But, he is just as comfortable in 8oz, and he was attempting to make the fight. So, demands like $10 mil weight penalties and 8oz gloves were not a problem.
     
  14. CoDer

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    $10 mil penalty is another non-issue since the fight is contracted at 147lbs. It would matter if the fight was at catch weight.
     
  15. punisher

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    Yes it was a "non-issue", because, Floyd did not make an issue of it. And, I assume he knew making the WW limit would be no problem. Yet, they asked for it...just the same. Obviously, they were thinking he might have problems making weight, due to him failing to make 144 lbs, against JMM. If that's the best they could come up with...that's on them. It's Floyd's position to accept, if he wanted to make the fight, or reject and counter propose if he was willing to risk the bout, to get the demand revised or removed.