Amir Khan and the truth!!!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by margaritop4p, Jul 17, 2009.


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  1. margaritop4p

    margaritop4p New Member Full Member

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    After hearing all of the unnecessary hate for the young man, I have decided to address a few issues.

    Khan is an over protected bum?

    I'm not sure about this. His career pretty much mirrors 90% of other fighters, and world champions out there. No top fighter usually takes on world class opposition in their early careers, especially when they are only 22 years of age. In 22 fights Khan has beaten decent domestic competition, and in the last 3 fights, stepped up his game significantly.

    Lawton (Decent domestic fighter. Gave Murray all he could handle two years after being destroyed by Khan)
    Limmond (Decent domestic fighter and gave Khan a tough fight)
    Earl (Knocked Katsidis down in his previous fight)
    Gomez (Gave Khan a tough fight)
    Prescott (Knocked Khan out. 90% KO Ratio. Risky matchup)
    Barrera (Fight should have been ruled a NC. But Khan did what he had to do. If he lost this fight, his career was over. Very risky matchup)
    Kotelnik (Very good, world class boxer. Risky fight)

    While a lot of the above fighters were either shot, or moving up from a lower weight, most gave Khan trouble and proved worthy opponents. I don't buy into the argument that Khan is 'over' protected. He has been brought through the ranks similarly to any other prospect.

    Why won't Khan rematch Prescott? The stupid bum is a chicken.

    Well after being vicously ko'd by Prescott in the first round of their fight, Khan had to make a few important decisions for the sake oh his career. He moved country, and hooked up with Freddy Roach, and is trying to improve his defensive game. If he was to give Prescott an immediate rematch without addressing his defence, and style problems, he would most likely get ko'd again. Big fights against the likes of Kotelnik, who don't hit hard, but still hit hard enough to ko Khan, will help prepare him for the bigger punchers and challenges that lie ahead. I'm confident that should Khan notch up a couple of straight wins, a Prescott rematch will soon be on the horizon.

    Does Khan deserve his title shot?

    Probably not, but boxing is a money sport. Khan is a big name, and Kotelnik probably wants some big bucks, hence him dropping Ortiz to fight Khan. However, this fight makes sense. The ***an and Barrera fights didn't answer any questions regarding improvements Khan had made to his game. He still needed a stern, strong test to answer these questions. All his lightweight rivals are big hitters and it would be career suicide to put him up against Prescott, Katsidis or Diaz at this stage. Domestic rivals such as Murray and Thaxton are not big fights, and would be a step down after Barrera. That's where Kotelnik fits in. He is a world class opponent, near Khan's weight division, who isn't a huge hitter. What makes more sense that that? Kotelnik still has enough power to ko Khan, but if Khan has really improved his defensive game, his chin shouldn't be a problem. So people should stop concentrating on the title and look at the fight. If Khan can beat a solid, world class champion in Kotelnik, then he have undoubtedly improved, and deserves some credit. Considering big fights with Hatton and JMM are rumoured to be on the table if he wins on Saturday, this fight could be the making of Khan. At the end of the day, if he beats Kotelnik, he deserves be be called a world champion, because Kotelnik is a top, top fighter. He will lose if he is the same boxer that fought Prescott.

    So please can we just look forward to Saturday night, cut the bull**it, and let the best man win?
     
    margaritop4p, Jul 17, 2009
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  2. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Khan is a Glass Jawed fraud. He is awful. He fights like a mini robot.
     
    Rico Spadafora, Jul 17, 2009
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  3. ishy

    ishy Loyal Member Full Member

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    You have named yourself after Concreto.Therefore your points are not valid.









    Just joking....
     
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  4. GDG

    GDG Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Here's the truth about Khan:

    People dislike the fact that just like Audley, he has made a lot of money and is now on PPV without ever doing anything in the pros. He hasn't even beat the best that the UK has to offer (I think he himself would fight anyone, but Warren is very sneeky at being selective with his fighters).

    He is very talented, and seems to have all the attributes except a chin.

    He got KO'd in a min, yet he gets the title shot while the guy that defeated him reaps no rewards.

    He's taking a pretty easy route to a world title, but people forget how young he is.

    Despite what people say, I think he's a pretty humble guy and looks uncomfortable when "hyping" himself up, as if it's not a natural thing for him to do.

    He has a lot of talk and threads started on him for a guy that hasn't even fought for a world title yet.

    He was overhyped, but the hype is now more realistic (very good fighter with a very poor chin).

    He can beat Kotelnik and will probably go on to have a good career, but we all know Warren will manouvere him around the divisions big punchers having seen what Prescott did...and this will annoy non-fans (as it should).
     
    GDG, Jul 17, 2009
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  5. socrates

    socrates THE ORIGINAL... Full Member

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    i refuse to read more than a sentence on kahn especially if they dont begin with "firstly lets get a sense of perspective and accept that he is inherantly flawed"

    skilled lad,but the chin will always haunt him.
     
    socrates, Jul 17, 2009
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  6. Jay23

    Jay23 Guest

    Totally agree with all of this :yep
     
    Jay23, Jul 17, 2009
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  7. Leonit

    Leonit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah I'm not Khan hatter or something but I will root for Kotelnik. Khan is very often disrespectful and arrogant. He is very young and he must learn tu be a bit more humble. But if he actually win this is not going to be a tragedy for me. Power for him. You have a lot of valid points but your post is too long not a lot of people are going to read it.
     
    Leonit, Jul 17, 2009
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  8. UndisputedUK

    UndisputedUK Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Good post, but ignoring the Barrera farce and Prescott KO... Khan has been floored by Gomez and knocked down and seriously shocked by Limond. Neither of these are huge punchers at 130lbs let alone lightweight. We know Kotelnik is not a big puncher, but he isn't a 130lbs fighter he is a proper 140lbs fighter. The guy is an excellent boxer and is not coming into the fight with any real doubts about stamina, chin and skills.
    He has a level of durability, skill and stamina that Khan would not have faced.
    Also Kotelnik has performed reasonably well against Maidana and Witter who are very sharp punchers. It's Kotelnik's fight to lose rather than for Khan to win. He needs to fight more aggressive than usual to beat Khan.
    I'm waiting to see what happens when Kotelnik lands with a decent punch.

    My head says Khan, it's his time to shine, the favourite etc. Kotelnik won't make it easy, Khan may look really good, but it only takes a decent dig and the fight is over. Is Khan's chin worse than Kotelnik's suposed lack of power? The only things I know, are that Khan's head seems always in the right place for a quick counter and that Kotelnik must dig harder than Limond.

    I cannot wait!
     
    UndisputedUK, Jul 17, 2009
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  9. Ricky Jr

    Ricky Jr "Pretty Boy" Full Member

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    Judge the man when he retires. Even with a glass jaw he can still be champ. Too many haters.
     
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  10. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Khan is not another Audley.

    Khan does have the fighting heart to become a world champion and he excites and this is shown be his risk taking.


    Who could ever say Audley had a heart or took risks.


    This for me is an Audley thread, because Khan wants this really badly unlike Audley, who was an amateur con man who the BBC got F******* by!
     
    destruction, Jul 17, 2009
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  11. abzmanc

    abzmanc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Since when does being humble become a requirement of being a boxer ? In fact if anything.. it would be the opposite :nut
     
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  12. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Exactly, self promotion and being able to talk the talk is one of the most important things in being recognised as a great fighter. Ermmm... Ali the best example of this by far!
     
    destruction, Jul 17, 2009
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  13. scilent assasin

    scilent assasin p4p Full Member

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    u didnt include the st clair fight who was an ex world champion and his only 12 round fight
     
    scilent assasin, Jul 17, 2009
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  14. Little Pea

    Little Pea 'A' grade boxing fan Full Member

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    man the man writes a nice post with some intellectual efforts...and you answer with that? Same **** over and over again.

    How does it fell to be known as the most stupid poster on ESB?
     
    Little Pea, Jul 17, 2009
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  15. scilent assasin

    scilent assasin p4p Full Member

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    he does it becase he is esb's p4p no 1 *******
     
    scilent assasin, Jul 17, 2009
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