Amir Khan has a decent chance to Shock the World by beating Mayweather Mid/Late 2012.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Darni187, Aug 4, 2011.


  1. lewishamboy

    lewishamboy Styles Impetuous Full Member

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    Kotelnik beat Maidana in his fight before Khan and got robbed by Alexander in his fight after, thats basically 2 wins over top ranked competitors at 140. Yet somehow you don't consider him a 'live' opponent. :think

    Judah had just knocked out Mabuza who had retired Kendall Holt by round six of his previous fight and before that he won over 12 rounds against Matthysse. Sure it was a hometown decision but still a relatively close fight. Khan totally dominated Judah, made him look like he wasn't a live opponent.

    You are the one 'sprouting' bull**** my friend.
     
  2. lazarus20000

    lazarus20000 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Come on man, you know its all down to money. GBP are backing Khan big time as they see him as the next best thing, which he is. Everyone knows, including Bradley, that all the money rests in the WW division. That's why they are mapping the shortest possible route for Khan to reach the big boys up at WW. It is a shame that Khan will miss out on a couple of tough fighters at 140, but at 147, it gets a whole lot harder either way....
     
  3. Prince.

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    I dunno what Middlesbrough geaser Dave is trying to express. Khan has fought alot of tough fighters considering his age (at the time those bouts took place). Barrera, Kotelnik, Salita just to name a few; were tough fights for him and tbh when people say such and such boxer was past thier prime etc etc it makes no sense cos fighters r supposed 2 b in the best condition 4 their upcoming fights.... they sign the doted lines with the intention that i will take Amir's WBA off him and each time they have been unsuccesful for whatever reason. He's defended his WBA 5 times now since he won it back in 2009.


    Dave keeps going on about live oponents why don't u get in the ring and see how it feels like going against some of the names you mentioned that were supposedly 'old or shot'. It's harder than it looks. Dave, do you like Amir Khan... do you respect him as a boxer? From your opinions it looks like you don't think highly of Amir's wins. And who else is Khan supposed 2 face for unification when Bradley ducked Khan? Obv the next titleholder which was Judah. Khan isn't no Floyd where he can pick and mix his opponents... he has to work up the ladder and in turn you trash his opponents. Whats up wid tht?


    And Darni187 i agree with the above opinion of yours :good
     
  4. Uncle Rico

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    I think it's more of a case of Khan just not having crossed paths with enough of these 'live' fighters. Kotelnik is a very underrated win, in my opinion. This is a guy who schooled a young American touted as the next big thing, and Khan gave a complete shut-out against him. The other is Maidana, another good win that involved him showing us things which we never expected from him. Then, of course, we should have got Bradley. Unfortunately that just wasn’t to be, no matter how hard Khan tried to make it.

    But despite that, his run at 140 has been an impressive one. Bar the last few rounds against Maidana, he’s dominated everyone he’s faced. He’s yet to fight a guy in the class of Mayweather or Pacquiao, but that’s what he’s aiming for.
     
  5. Prince.

    Prince. 24/7 365 Full Member

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    Ditto :)
     
  6. Davew430

    Davew430 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wasn't Kotelnik's decision over Maidana questionable?

    Also stop using Devon Alexander as a reasoning point, everybody jumped up his arse because he KO'd the previously iron chinned Juan Urango, he then went on to look terrible against Kotelnik, Bradley and Matthysse.

    Alexander has proved to be somewhat of a dud, so don't use him in your reasoning.

    Fair enough Judah went the distance with Matthysse, you agree it was a dodgy decision too, so in that case you also agree Khan fought the "lesser" of Judah and Matthysse. Also Judah was losing to Mabuza before landing one good clean shot.

    How you Khan fan's rate this win over Judah so highly is beyond me it really is, as i said Kotelnik is the only case you can argue for a live opponent, but even then he wasn't anything special.
     
  7. Davew430

    Davew430 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Please don't tell me your saying Barrera and Salita we're credible opposition? If that's true you've just made a damn fool of yourself.

    I don't mind Amir Khan, i'd love to see him do well to give England a good name, but i don't let patriotism cloud common sense. I don't care if a fighter is English, American, Mexican, Argentinian or German, i rate a win without being biased. I also respect every Boxer, wether it's Floyd Mayweather, Manny Pacquiao, Sergio Martinez or Eric Crumble, it take's massive ball's to get in the ring and compete.

    I could'nt get in the ring with Khan's opponent's, i'm far too big and would be in a whole different weight class.
     
  8. lewishamboy

    lewishamboy Styles Impetuous Full Member

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    I don't think you understand the definition of a live opponent.

    And why do people rate the win over Judah so highly? Erm, maybe because he dominated Judah in a way nobody (including Floyd 5 yrs ago and Lucas Matthysse a couple of fights before) have been able to do so.
    I mean seriously, who before Khan has been able to make Judah look so utterly helpless?

    'You Khan fans'..you not a fan then? Khan is by far the most naturally gifted British boxer, can't see why any Englishman into boxing would not be a fan...
     
  9. Flash Jab

    Flash Jab Boxing Junkie banned

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  10. Davew430

    Davew430 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Well let's see...

    Tsyzu knocked Judah senseless.

    Carlos Baldomir also did this.

    Judah put up a decent fight with Floyd for a few rounds, but your forgetting this was all many many year's ago. He fought Floyd in 2006 for crying out loud.

    I wouldn't say i'm a Khan fan, i'm very picky about who i become a "fan" of, but i follow Khan quite closely, as i follow every other English fighter competing at either Domestic, European or World level. I used the term "you Khan fan's" because you get some Khan follower's who sometimes refuse to acknowledge common sense half the time
     
  11. Vidic

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    Highlighted the important part. Judah was way way past his best and nobody thought he would win, and in the end he quit.

    Thats why I'm not going to rate it highly.
     
  12. Davew430

    Davew430 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Finally, somebody who see's the Judah win for what it was
     
  13. Prince.

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    Oh thats cool then it was just that u came across like u didn't think highly of his wins. He's been representing GB well now that Haye has gone out with his toe problems lol. As far as them 2 peeps i mentioned Barrera and Salita... alot of people in the UK thought Barrera and the jewish boxer Salita was gonna win easily over Khan prob cos of his then recent loss against Prescott.

    Who would you like Amir to face next in December?
     
  14. lewishamboy

    lewishamboy Styles Impetuous Full Member

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    Zab was outboxing Tsyzu in the first round and until he got caught.

    Did you even watch the Baldomir fight? He didnt dominate Judah anything like Khan did.

    There's just no reasoning with haters :-(
     
  15. Davew430

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    Ideally i'd like Khan to face Bradley, but for one reason or another i doubt that will happen.

    Other than Bradley i'd like to see him fight (in the following order)...

    Winner of Morales v Matthysse
    Winner of Guerrero v Maidana (possible Maidana rematch is intresting)
    Bredis Prescott (Now i know Khan would steamroll Prescott now, but it'd be good for his career to avenge the defeat, like Lewis did with McCall and Rahman)